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Lees family Ashworth Bury

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grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 20 Aug 2023 16:32

Message on my local Church FB page St James Ashworth.

'We have a lady trying to discover if there are any descendents of her great grandfather still living in the area. He was called Andrew Captain Lees, married to Martha Kaye and they lived at Yates Farm. He is buried in our churchyard.'

I've had a search and found the family at Yates Farm Ashworth/Birtle/Bamford, district of Heywood or Bury, and have the censuses for 81, 91, 01, 11.

Andrew was bap at St James Ashworth 9.5.1852 s of Peter and Rachel
m to Martha Kay (no e) Jun 1876 Bury
bur 16.5.1901 St James

The 1901 gives the best picture
Andrew Lees b 1852 Ashworth, farmer
Martha b 1851 Walmersley wife
Joseph b 1877 Walmersley farmers son
Annie b 1879 Walmersley dairymaid
Mary b 1882 Ashworth cotton weaver
Betsy b 1884 Ashworth ''
Eliza b 1886 Ashworth ''
Margaret b 1888 Ashworth ''

In 1939 Joseph is still at the farm, but I don't know if he married.

I'll message and see what the lady knows.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2023 16:38

1939

Joseph Lees 12 Mar 1877 Male Dairy Farmer Single 35 1
Eliza Lees 16 Apr 1885 Female Dairy Farmer Single 35 2
John Lees Howarth 26 Aug 1919 Male Cowman & Farm Carter Single 35 3


Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Howarth John L Lees Bury 8c 854


Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%)
Howarth James Bury 8c 867
Lees Betsy Bury 8c 867

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2023 16:41

1921 Census Of England & Wales
Yates, Ainsworth, Birtle cum Bamford, Lancashire, England

Joseph Lees Head Male 1877 44 Walmersley, Lancashire, England Farmer Own Account
Eliza Lees Sister Female 1885 36 Ashworth, Lancashire, England Home Duties -
Betsey Howarth Sister Female 1883 37 Ashworth, Lancashire, England Home Duties

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2023 16:46

Howarth
John Lees
26/08/1919
1992
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Bury, Lancashire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2023 16:51

NO second forename for Andrew...............an addition of his own, perhaps..........


Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%)
Kay Martha Bury 8c 644
Lees Andrew Bury 8c 644

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2023 16:53

Baptism: 14 Jun 1885 St James, Ashworth, Lancashire, England
Eliza Lees - Daughter of Andrew Captain Lees & Martha
Abode: Ashworth
Occupation: Farmer
Baptised by: F.E. Waldie Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1877 - 1890, Page 57, Entry 453
Source: LDS Family Search

Baptism: 27 May 1888 St James, Ashworth, Lancashire, England
Margaret Lees - Daughter of Andrew Captain Lees & Martha
Born: 27 Feb 1888
Abode: Ashworth
Occupation: Farmer
Baptised by: Francis.E. Waldie
Register: Baptisms 1877 - 1890, Page 78, Entry 707
Source: LDS Family Search

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2023 16:56

Name Margaret Lees
Registration Year 1908]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Bury
Inferred County Lancashire
Volume 8c
Page 745
Records on Page (Name)
Thomas Helm

Name Margaret Helm
Death Age 50
Birth Date abt 1888
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun 1938
Registration district Haslingden
Inferred County Lancashire
Volume 8e
Page 140

1921 Census Of England & Wales
Riding, Cliviger, Lancashire, England
Thomas Helm Head Male 1881 40 Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England Farmer Employer
Margaret Helm Wife Female 1888 33 Ashworth, Lancashire, England Assisting On The Farm -
Walter Helm Son Male 1909 11 Edenfield, Lancashire, England - -
Harold Helm Nephew Male 1898 22 Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England Coal Getter, Collier Deerply Colliery Co, Bank, Out Of Work
Eleanor Helm Daughter Female 1910 10 Edenfield, Lancashire, England - -
Martha Helm Daughter Female 1913 8 Ashworth, Lancashire, England - -
Thomas Helm Son Male 1921 - Cliviger, Lancashire, England - -
John Connor Servant Male 1873 48 Ireland Farm Labourer Thomas Helen Farmer

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2023 16:57

Name Andrew Captain Lees
Death Date 13 May 1901
Death Place Rochdale
Probate Date 18 Jun 1901
Probate Registry Manchester, Chester, England
Probate to Widow

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2023 16:59

1939 Register
Windle Barn, Heywood, Heywood M.B., Lancashire, England
John Fenton 13 Apr 1869 Male Farmer (Stock Rearer) Married 33 1
Annie Fenton 24 Jun 1878 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 33 2


Name Annie Fenton
Death Date 10 Jun 1942
Cemetery St James Churchyard
Burial or Cremation Place Heywood, Metropolitan Borough of Rochdale, Greater Manchester, England
Spouse John Fenton

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2023 17:00

As you will be aware, the best way to look for living connections on here is to use the 'search all member trees' facility.

The chances of anyone connected being active on GR are minimal..........at best

Alternatively, search the ER's and BT Phone Book..

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2023 17:01

1921 Census Of England & Wales
Windle Meadow, Birtle cum Bamford, Lancashire, England

John Fenton Head Male 1869 52 Heywood, Lancashire, England Farmer Employer
Annie Fenton Wife Female 1878 43 Bury, Lancashire, England Home Duties -
Mary Whittaker Aunt Female 1847 73 Bury, Lancashire, England - -
John Lees Howarth Nephew Male 1919 1 Rochdale, Lancashire, England - -

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2023 17:04

Name Mary Haworth
Age in 1911 29
Estimated Birth Year abt 1882
Relation to Head Wife
Gender Female
Birth Place Ashworth, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Norden
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Street Address Lower Red Lumb Norden
Marital Status Married
Registration District Number 470
Sub-registration district Spotland and Norden
ED, institution, or vessel 15
Piece 24649
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Richard Haworth 30 Head
Mary Haworth 29 Wife
Richard Haworth 2 Son

Name Mary Haworth
Death Date 13 Jan 1950
Cemetery St Mary Churchyard
Burial or Cremation Place Hawkshaw, Metropolitan Borough of Bury, Greater Manchester, England
Spouse Richard Haworth

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2023 17:07


1939 Register
86 Deeply Vale Farm, Heywood, Ramsbottom U.D., Lancashire, England
Richard Haworth 24 May 1880 Male Dairy Farmer Married 83 1
Mary Haworth 06 Dec 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 83 2
Richard Jun Haworth 08 Mar 1909 Male Cowman Assisting Father Single 83 3
Joseph Haworth 10 Aug 1911 Male Horseman Assisting Father Single 83 4

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 20 Aug 2023 17:35

Andrew is in quite a few trees on Ancestry. One is by his great grandson but doesn’t seem to be active. I’ve not checked them all.

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 20 Aug 2023 17:48

Thank you kindly for your efforts. I've left a message for the lady to get back to me. It sounds as though there may be descendents still in the area. Once she does get back to me I'll ask around the farming folk, they tend to have long memories.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Aug 2023 18:56

Marriage of John Lees Howarth -

Marriages Sep 1960 (>99%)
HOWARTH John L SCHOFIELD Heywood 10c 886
SCHOFIELD Alice HOWARTH Heywood 10c 886


J L Howarth
in the UK and Ireland, Newspapers.com™ Obituary Index, 1800s-current
Name J L Howarth
Gender Male
Death Age 73
Birth Date abt 1919
Residence Place Rochdale Road Eden-Field
Death Date Abt 1992
Obituary Date 25 Sep 1992
Obituary Place Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England
Newspaper Title Rossendale Free Press
Spouse Alice


Funeral Service Rawtenstall Mr J L Howarth
FORMER reservoir keeper John Lees Howarth died on Monday at Bury General Hospital. He was 73 and lived at Rochdale Road Eden-field.
He leaves his wife Alice. His funeral is on Monday when the Rev D Dawson will conduct a service at the chapel of rest Ramsbottom before cremation at Rochdale. Funeral director: R Wolstenholme for Booth and Wolstenholme .

Published: Friday 25 September 1992
Newspaper: Rossendale Free Press


It doesn't sound as if they had children - certainly none were born in Heywood RD, or Bury or Rochdale.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Aug 2023 18:59

Andrew is in THREE trees on GR….take a look

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 20 Aug 2023 22:50

Thank you both for your help.

The lady hasn't got back to me yet, there's not a lot I can do until she does.
Hopefully she will know some of the family names and we can match them up.