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10 Sep 2019 23:17 |
I am trying to find out about the military service of mygrandmother's brother, Horace Goodspeed born in 1899 in Hoxton in London. I have been told that he served in the First World War but no one left in the family knows anymore than that. As he was only 15 when war broke out he may have lied about his date of birth. I know very little about him but I do know that he married an Alice Davis in 1921 in Camberwell and they had 3 daughters. I think he may have been a policeman at some stage. I would be really grateful for any help anyone can give. Thank you in advance.
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KathleenBell
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10 Sep 2019 23:53 |
Could this be his prisoner of war record? :-
First name(s) Horace Last name Goodspeed Birth year 1898 Birth date 13 May 1898 Birth place London Service number - Rank Soldier Rank as transcribed Soldier Regiment 7 Buffs Company A Capture year - Capture date 12 Oct 1917 Capture location Polecapicle Country - Previous camp Front L Z Next of kin first name(s) Horace (his father) Next of kin town London Document details Prisoners of the First World War, the International Committee of the Red Cross Conflict World War 1 Record set Prisoners Of War 1715-1945
If this is him then his service records must be among those that were destroyed by fire as they are not on Findmypast.
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KathleenBell
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10 Sep 2019 23:58 |
With his family in the 1911 census:-
1911 Census For England & Wales 3 Seventh Avenue Bush Hill Park Enfield, Enfield, Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Horace Goodspeed Father Married Male 37 1874 Electro Gilder And Plater Herts Hatfield Emily Goodspeed Mother Married Female 37 1874 - London St Lukes Horace Goodspeed Son - Male 12 1899 - London Hoxton<<<<<<<<<<<<< Emily Goodspeed Daughter - Female 10 1901 - London Hoxton May Goodspeed Daughter - Female 9 1902 - London Shoreditch Dorothy Goodspeed Daughter - Female 4 1907 - London Shoreditch Leslie Goodspeed Son - Male 1 1910 - Middx Enfield Betty Goodspeed Daughter - Female 6 1905 - Middx Enfield
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KathleenBell
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11 Sep 2019 00:00 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 72, Murray Street, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Horace Goodspeed Head Married Male 27 1874 Electro Gilder Plater Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England Emily Goodspeed Wife - Female 27 1874 - St Luke's, Middlesex, England Horace Goodspeed Son - Male 2 1899 - St Luke's, Middlesex, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Emily M Goodspeed Daughter - Female 1 1900 - St Luke's, Middlesex, England
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KathleenBell
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11 Sep 2019 00:02 |
His death? :-
First name(s) HORACE Last name GOODSPEED Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1899 Age 48 Death quarter 2 Death year 1947 District Lewisham County London Volume 5D Page 82 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
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KathleenBell
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11 Sep 2019 00:07 |
Are you sure about Alice's name? This appears to be Horace's marriage:-
First name(s) HORACE Last name GOODSPEED Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1921 Registration month - MarriageFinder ™
HORACE GOODSPEED married one of these people
Florence K Davis
Spouse's last name Davis District Camberwell District number - County London Country England Volume 1D Volume as transcribed 1D Page number 1867 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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KathleenBell
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11 Sep 2019 00:09 |
This is Florence in the 1939 register:-
1 Fair View Villas, West Ashford R.D., Kent, England
Goodspeed household (5 people) First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Florence K (M) Goodspeed 16 Jan 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 54 1 Margareth Brown (Goodspeed) 22 May 1922 Female Incapacitated Single 54 2 Hazel W McNeilly (Goodspeed) 03 Apr 1926 Female At School Single 54 3 Beryl Goodspeed 10 Feb 1928 Female At School Single 54 4 The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?
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KathleenBell
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11 Sep 2019 00:22 |
This gives his service number:-
Prisoners Of War 1715-1945
First name(s) Horace Last name Goodspeed Year 1917 Event date 12 Oct 1917 Service number 22386 Regiment Puffs Regiment as transcribed 7 Buffs Country Great Britain Document details Prisoners of the First World War, the International Committee of the Red Cross Reference numbers PA 26852 Conflict World War 1 Record set Prisoners Of War 1715-1945 Category Military, armed forces & conflict Subcategory First World War
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KathleenBell
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11 Sep 2019 00:23 |
Florence's death:-
First name(s) FLORENCE KATE M Last name GOODSPEED Gender Female Birth day 16 Birth month 1 Birth year 1898 Age - Death quarter 2 Death year 1971 District Bromley County Kent Volume 5A Page 1133 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
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KathleenBell
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11 Sep 2019 00:25 |
Daughter Marguerite's marriage:-
First name(s) MARGUERITE Last name GOODSPEED Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1942 Registration month - MarriageFinder ™
MARGUERITE GOODSPEED married one of these people
George W Brown
Spouse's last name Brown District Ashford District number - County Kent Country England Volume 2A Volume as transcribed 2A Page number 4233 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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KathleenBell
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11 Sep 2019 00:26 |
Daughter Hazel's marriage:-
First name(s) HAZEL W Last name GOODSPEED Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1954 Registration month - MarriageFinder ™
HAZEL W GOODSPEED married one of these people
Hugh H McNeilly
Spouse's last name McNeilly District Tonbridge District number - County Kent Country England Volume 5B Volume as transcribed 5B Page number 1707 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
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KathleenBell
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11 Sep 2019 00:29 |
Daughter Beryl can't have married. This is her death:-
First name(s) Beryl Last name Goodspeed Title Ms Sex Female Age 86 Birth year 1928 Birth date 00/00/1928 Death year 2014 Death date 03 Dec 2014 Place Orpington Area Bromley Geo direction Greater London Postcode area BR Postcode district BR5 Postcode sector BR5 1 County Kent Country England Record set United Kingdom Deaths 2007-2017
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Gwyn in Kent
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11 Sep 2019 03:38 |
In 1939 he is shown on his own in Lewisham, but married.
He is a Police Constable (M.P.)
Florence K ( married ) and 3 daughters are living in Smarden, West Ashford, Kent
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Chris Ho :)
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11 Sep 2019 08:19 |
Below is another entry on FMP...
Chris :)
Prisoners Of War 1715-1945 (Find My Past) First name(s) Horace Last name Goodspeed Birth year 1898 Birth date 13 May 1898 Birth place London Service number 22386 Rank Private Rank as transcribed Pte Regiment 7 Buffs Company A Capture date 12 Oct 1917 Capture location Polcapelle Previous camp Westliche Etappe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Poelcappelle
(Westliche Etappe has various mentions also, on google search)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_(City_of_London)_Battalion,_London_Regiment
Birth GOODSPEED, HORACE VEZEY GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 749
All London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917 Horace Goodspeed 19 Jun 1898 Finsbury St Luke Islington (Born 13th May 1898) Parents, Horace (occ. Electro Gilder), Emily Ada Abode, 11, Radnor Street
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#calendar
(he is on above 1947, Florence Maud Kate Goodwin)
Register of leavers from the Metropolitan Police
Horace Goodspeed, warrant number 105473. Joined on 28 April 1919, and left on 31 Dec 1945. Last posted to P Division as a PC.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C13366365
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11 Sep 2019 16:57 |
Medal roll survives as not stored in same place as Service records which were destroyed or damaged WW2
View British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
Name: Horace Goodspeed Regiment or Corps: Buffs (East Kent) Regiment Regimental Number: 22386
Awarded Victory and British Medals
Note on card says under the heading "Correspondence" -
Com. Met Police (?word) roll of PC's ent. to medals 12.1 21
(ent will be entitled)
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