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I have got a copy of my Gran's marriage Certificate and I am now trying to locate her father ROBERT WILLIS INGLEBY who is stated as being deceased. His occupation was PUBLICAN.

My gran was married on 13th August 1927, Her name DOROTHY EVELYN INGLEBY, she was born in PATELY BRIDGE, Yorkshire



Hope someone can help Tony

Possible?


1901 England Census

Name: Robert W Ingleby
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishopwearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 212
Household Members:
Name Age
Isabella Gilson 74
Mary A Gibson 42
Isabella E Gibson 31
Jane Gibson 33
William Brown 19
Robert W Ingleby 19

How old was Dorothy when she married?

I think the one you have found is this one.

Robert William Ingleby 1881 dec qt Pateley Bridge gro ref 9a 60

Trying to get my head around the little information provided


Is this your grandmother's marriage registration?

Marriages Sep 1927 (>99%)

Hill Norman Ingleby Fylde 8e 1798
Ingleby Dorothy E Hill Fylde 8e 1798



How old does it say she was on the certificate?

Was she a spinster or widowed?

What was the address given for her?




I cannot find her on the 1911 Census ............ and she surely should have been on there because that is only 16 years prior to her marriage.


Nor can I find a Robert Ingleby of what might be the correct age ...... there was a Robert Ingleby born ca 1835, but no Dorothy Evelyn shown among the residents of the house where Robert dwelt.



sylvia

Looking at the census image of the 1901

Name Age
Isabella Gilson 74
Mary A Gibson 42 Ladies Outfitter
Isabella E Gibson 31
Jane Gibson 33
William Brown 19 Apprentice Railway Engineer
Robert W Ingleby 19 <<<< Architects Articled Pupil





sylvia

???? Robert W in 1891

1891 Census

Name: Robert W Ingleby
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Mary J
Gender: Male
Where born: Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Laverton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Laverton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Ripon
Sub-registration district: Kirkby Malzeard

Elizabeth Tennant 67 Living on Own Means
Selina E Tennant 27 Daughter
Mary J Tennant 44 Daughter <<<<<<<<<<<< Ingleby on census image
Robert W Ingleby 9




sylvia

Two Public family trees on ancestry have Dorothy


One has parents' name sunknown, the other has Robert Willis Inglebya s father, mother unknown


Hill Family Tree
Public Member Tree
Unsourced

Dorothy Evelyn Ingleby
Birth: 20 May 1906 - Pateley Bridge
Death: 10 Dec 1994 - Blackpool
Spouse: Norman Hill

F: (Name Unknown)

M: (Name Unknown)



Hill Family Tree
Public Member Tree
Unsourced
Dorothy Evelyn Ingleby
Birth: 20 May, 1909 - Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire, England
Death: 10 December, 1994 (10 Dec 1994) - Blackpool, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Norman Hill

F: Robert Willis Ingleby

M: (Name Unknown)




so at least we know she was born somewhere between 1900 and 1910!!



sylvia

Came across this..

Births Mar 1906 (>99%)
Ingleby Evelyn Pateley B. 9a 57

But no Dorothy.. Yet

Dorothy does not show on the 1911 ..... and she should!!

I cannot find a birth registration for a Dorothy Evelyn anywhere, nor for a Dorothy in a registration centre that includes Pateley Bridge

It is almost as if she does not exist!


I'm beginning to think other possibilities


a) she changed her christian names ....... not unknown


b) she claimed a father she didn't have ................. not unknown


c) could she have been married before (ie to an Ingleby)






Could this be her birth registration???????


Births Mar 1906 (>99%)

Ingleby Evelyn Pateley B. 9a 57




BUY this certificate to get the name of her father and of her mother, and her mother's maiden name. It will cost £7


I think this is the only way you are going to solve the problem!


She might have been given Dorothy as well at baptism ......... birth certificates and registrations are not amended in that case.




This looks like that Evelyn in 1911 ......... but the apparent father is not Robert!


1911 Census

HOUSEHOLD INGLEBY ALICE F 1905 6 Pateley Bridge Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD INGLEBY EDITH FLORENCE F 1902 9 Pateley Bridge Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD INGLEBY ELSIE MAY F 1904 7 Pateley Bridge Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD INGLEBY EVELYN F 1906 5 Pateley Bridge Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD INGLEBY GEORGE EDWIN M 1908 3 Pateley Bridge Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD INGLEBY JOHN WILLIAM M 1898 13 Pateley Bridge Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD INGLEBY MARY ANN F 1875 36 Pateley Bridge Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD INGLEBY SARAH ELLEN F 1900 11 Pateley Bridge Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD INGLEBY WALTER M 1874 37 Pateley Bridge Yorkshire West Riding



One has to pay to look at the transcript or the census image, and no-one is offering to do that


Go to the website, and buy credits. It costs £6.95 for 60 credits. It then costs 10 credits to look at thranscript and 30 credits to look at the actual image.

the website is www.fmpbsol.1911census.co.uk/



sylvia