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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 3 Jul 2011 12:30

Ginny
after mod action and post is ok, it should still indicate rr'd and result....not sure I see the reason for this?

I think that it would be good for any post that has been RR and is OK to have a result on as in the case of yours it would have not been hit 3/4 times because hopefully once it was RR and the result OK then it "could not" be RR again.
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I am against the RR persons name being known *at all* as it will of course cause bad feeling and victimisation toward that person which can be carried on by PM and then things CAN get nasty as I know to my cost and have had to get GR to block the other person from contacting me.(Once only as I have only ever hit RR twice I think)

I also think that free members should not be able to hit RR,if they are only reading and not participating fully on the site why should they have the ability to report things that they dont like,at least make them pay before they can say so..I mean its not a fortune for 6 months standard membership is it?
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if rr is not flagged as abuse or showing personal details abt living person, does it need to remove post from view...................Pass on that Q Phil as I dont really get it(I dont mind admitting I am a "little" thick on some things)

rr reason should be displayed........Yes

after mod action and post is ok, it should still indicate rr'd and result........Yes

after mod action and post not ok, rr and result should be displayed.........Yes

confim,warning dialog when u click on report link.........Yes

anyone who reports 10 posts and mod decides to overrule then person loses ability to use report.......................Yes,but written warning after 8 to let person know they are near the line and would they like to think longer before hitting RR as they are going to lose the facility....Trouble is some people have more than one account so difficulty there as they can just swap to a different account each time..

support should action the reported posts today or tomorrow........Yes


*IF* you went for "Volunteer mods"then I am sure you could pick a couple of level headed fair people for each board(who uses that board often) among the many that use this site that are long standing NON contentious members that use the boards at certain hours of the day and night.There are members in GB, OZ,NZ America and Canada or any other place I have forgotten that may be approached...


Just my opinion of course...Ducking now to avoid any missiles coming my way :-S

TeresaW

TeresaW Report 3 Jul 2011 10:49

Perhaps, if it were possible, there could be a dropdown list or check list of the reason for reporting a post, which will then automatically keep or remove for preview the post depending on the reason. ie, wrong board (would keep it there but alert staff to move it), breach of T&Cs (would be removed for review immediately), personal data issues (again removed for review but reason given) etc etc.

I do think that free members who cannot post on the boards should not be able to report, that really does need to be removed. As Ginny said, it is a gift for banned members.

I don't think anyone should be named for reporting. Not because a vindictive one might not abuse their 'privilege' so much but that genuine reporters will have fingers pointed at them and could cause unecessary arguments. (By genuine reporters I meant those who report for genuine reasons such as breach of T&Cs etc.

What I DON'T see on other forums is members reporting for threads in the wrong place, but then again, these boards are moderated, and a mod will remove it to a different place if they see fit.

As for moderation, regular members often voluntarily moderate some forums, or one section of a forum, and these seem to run ok, there are no personality problems, and if a thread is removed, a note from the moderator is left in its place briefly explaining the reason for removal. It is the moderators decision and not up to other members to report with the aim of getting it removed.

I have reported threads in the past, mostly because they are personally attacking an individual, which is a clear breach of T&Cs, or for foul language, and not aiming at certain individuals, though those individuals may be repeat offenders. I really think that removing the RR and just flagging it for a moderator is the answer...

No....moderators....are the answer. Self moderation has not worked, that's been proved over and again over the years. You NEED someone to just keep an eye on threads, and be able to see any that are simply flagged. There doesn't have to be a reason, it's just flagging to ask a mod to look at it for themselves and decide if it should stay or go. Obviously staff don't have the time or resources to doit themselves on such a busy board, but you have a resource in your members, use it. (and if a member mod abuses that privilege, take their mod rights away, simples)

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom Report 3 Jul 2011 10:39

"The person who reports the post should either be displayed or a PM sent to poster notifying them who reported it and why"

Oh... No no no ! :-(

Do that and this will create all out victimisation of the reporting person on the board. :-(

In genuine cases where someone feels content to be inappropriate for the board, so sends a RR, there is already sniping on the thread after, often bordering on harrasment and intimidation.
Its worse when someone holds their hands up to reporting something.I've seen name calling amongst other things. :-(



Gins

Gins Report 3 Jul 2011 10:08

Hi Phil


rr reason should be displayed......and the person whos post it is should be notified too, both on removal and reinstatment


after mod action and post is ok, it should still indicate rr'd and result....not sure I see the reason for this?


after mod action and post not ok, rr and result should be displayed.....yes please


confim,warning dialog when u click on report link.....I think it does this already Phil?


anyone who reports 10 posts and mod decides to overrule then person loses ability to use report........DEFO and they should be given a warning about the possibility of being banned


support should action the reported posts today or tomorrow......yes as this would stop members worrying for so long, not knowing if their post is going to be removed


What I feel strongly about is: none paying members can RR which is totally ridiculous. This facility is a gift for members that have been banned. What about none members having to email GR to report something?

Now heres a controversial one for you! The person who reports the post should either be displayed or a PM sent to poster notifying them who reported it and why(a little more subtle!)

If the above was made clear and reporters knew that they would be identified I think it would save a lot of time for example: If I reported a post for something like vile language then I wouldnt mind you sending my name on to the poster. If I had reported a post for no good reason and was just being horrid, then I would think long and hard before reporting it

I know not all of you will agree with my last comments but I'm sick of the nasty reporting that has been going on for far too long now

And lastly.......It would be fab if ALL GR staff sing from the same hyme sheet. In the past it seems to have depended on 'who' was doing the moderation as to whether the post was removed or not

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 3 Jul 2011 10:04

Phil,

I am still pondering your thoughts.

My only comment at this stage is do you know roughly what proportion of reported posts are currently being found "Guilty" and the post/thread removed as opposed to those being found "Not Guilty" and subsequently reinstated?

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom Report 3 Jul 2011 09:52

"anyone who reports 10 posts and mod decides to overrule then person loses ability to use report."

Assume you mean reports of a meaningless nature rather than genuine reports which coincide with the reporting of a genuine breach of T&Cs ? :-)

I think its a good fair idea.

Someone may report, that in their point of view a posting is unsuitable, but it may not breach house rules. so wont be removed. This can be genuine

But if they keep on doing this for 10 times then its not so splat ! :-D :-D :-D

philmoir

philmoir Advisor Report 3 Jul 2011 09:17

thinking about reporting issue and how to cut the amount of time wasted following up every report, here ere some thoughts. just thoughts though for open discussion.

if rr is not flagged as abuse or showing personal details abt living person, does it need to remove post from view

rr reason should be displayed

after mod action and post is ok, it should still indicate rr'd and result

after mod action and post not ok, rr and result should be displayed

confim,warning dialog when u click on report link

anyone who reports 10 posts and mod decides to overrule then person loses ability to use report.

support should action the reported posts today or tomorrow

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 3 Jul 2011 08:58

This site probably does not attract more sad, sick, warped minded individuals than any other site does but at times it certainly feels as though that is the case. :-(

Whoever these phantom referrers are I just wish that they would get a life of their own instead of playing their silly little idiotic games.

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 3 Jul 2011 08:22

And another three-year-old ongoing thread -
http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards.page/board/general_chat/thread/1015604

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Jul 2011 22:21

and now the thread "does not exist" ?????????????

Gins

Gins Report 2 Jul 2011 18:24

Joy

I didnt see the first post but I expect it was harmless.....what fool keeps RRing posts

I hope Phil and his team can sort them out

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 2 Jul 2011 18:16

Absolutely no reason for this to be reviewed -
http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards.page/board/general_chat/thread/1273243

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jul 2011 20:41

Thank you GR for reinstating Ginny's post, and thus the thread!

Gins

Gins Report 1 Jul 2011 18:48

I cant afford champers Fanny....have to stick to white wine but today is a special day :-D

Dont worry Ive left 12 bottles of Moet on that table....plenty for you too

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 1 Jul 2011 18:11

And when have you needed an excuse to open the champers Gins?

Gins

Gins Report 1 Jul 2011 18:09

Hic....the party is going a treat :-D

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 1 Jul 2011 15:34

Thank you GR for reinstating Ginny's thread especially in time for it's first birthday.

Everyone is welcome to the party

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 1 Jul 2011 14:47

So glad the problem with Ginny's thread has been fixed - I can only take my name being in the limelight for so long!

Thank you Phil :-D


Cx

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jul 2011 01:43

I'm surprised that GR has not been able to deal with this.

I wonder just how long Ginny's thread will remain with the first post shown as requested for review AND with the wrong title ........ which Ginny cannot replace until the first post is reviewed and returned to normal.



sylvia

AmazingGrace08

AmazingGrace08 Report 30 Jun 2011 23:41

Thanks Phil, hopefully you can sort this mess out :-)