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Here we go!!..Thorps Parkers Dunnicliffe's..should have kept my mouth shut!..Bet i get lumbered with them!!! lol

Derek

Thanks Derek of course there are no Gilberts they are in hiding LOL. I have photos of some of the headstones although there are loads in a thicket of trees that have been removed for safety and they are totally inaccessable unfortunately .I bet Gilbert was there laughing at us LOL .I have not made this Thorpe Connection yet although saying that I think THF boarded with Thorpe's on one census. I will go and take a look now and add edit

Edit. On 1851 he is a servant with the Thorps also noticed a Parker and a Dunnicliffe (Tunnicliffe????) on there. This needs further investigation me thinks !

Morning LA.....Have eeided to get these Gravestones out of the way.
These are the sum total of all the Measham Inscriptions at St. Wystan's.
Clearly, now we know that various members of this notorious clan sided elsewherelike in Burton on trent, we haven't got them all..but these are the Repton ones.

You probably know these because you said you'd visited the scene..however, let's pretend you don't!!

Inside the church there is a Brass Plaque dedicating a window to the memory of ROBERT GEORGE MEASHAM and his wife EMMA HANNAH
It is the gift of Mary Measham who died 29.07.1914. It was dedicated 29.07.1904
This is officially MI no CH31

Said Robert George buried 27.10.1872 aged 67 and Emma hannah 12.12.1864 aged 57 are in PLOT D134


D259 and D260 contain SAMUEL MEASHAM 26.06.1817 and his wife MARY MEASHAM nee Thorp 12.09.1844 aged 67. and their daughter Mary THORP 12.09.1844 aged 67

This is interesting becasue i keep coming up against the THORPS in later measham history.

PLOT D133... THOMAS MEASHAM 15.02.1854 aged 74 and his wife Ann 17.02.1853 aged 5



Plot C124..ANN ELIZABETH MEasham 04.01.1900 aged 70

C121 GEORGE MEASHAM 10.01.1858

PLOT C122 his wife ANN REBECCA 07.05.1862 aged 59

PLOT C123 GEORGE MEASHAM 15.01.1830 aged 60

PLOT 237 WILLIAM MEASHAM 01.03.1880 aged 74 and his wife ELIZABETH 16.11.1889 aged 83
PLOT C119 DOROTHY MEASHAM 10.07.1835 wife of:

PLOT C120 RICHARD MEASHAM 20.02.1821 aged 65, and their son Richard 12.11.1803 aged 4

MARY MEASHAM (12.03.1914) who deicated the window and her sister Emma Doroth 03.04.1900 are buried together.

Sort that lot out!!! (Notice no Gilberts!!)

Derek.

Hi Derek, thanks for that I got a bit confused as I thought Mary Ann Parker would have been too old to have THF. I can now put this info correctly on my tree. Yes I have found the children of THF and Emily although obviously have not written them in yet until I confirmed info with you. This and other info will keep me busy updating for a little while and then I will gedcom to this site.LOL.

Hi Gooner.you're not waffling.....Gilbert did marry Mary Meakin....I have her death from Parish Records direct..ignore Ancestry Trees..and he married Mary Ann Parker and they had THF measham..who indeed did marry Emily..I'm glad you didn't already know that!!

Still looking for Mary Ann's maiden name!!!

Still haven't put on your MI's from St.Wystan's...bear with me.
EDIT 13.17..have you got the children of THF and Emily?? they moved to Etwall and he died 1906 Burton on trent.

Derek.

nudge for Chrissie.

Sorry to hear you have been poorly Derek. . I had no inkling that Emily married Thomas H F !!. As she linked in through another little twig of tree. Is this now right as this is how I see it.
Gilbert married Mary Meakin who then died in 1830 ?. He remarried Mary Parker in 1831 and had Thomas H F.

EDIT !!!! or according to another tree Mary Meakin did not die until 1860 so was she Thpmas H F's Mum ?

PS see you did shine LOL

Hello Gooner...sorry not to get back to you..not been well....pity you already know about Emily Foster.because you've robbed me of a chance to shine!!

I bet you already know this but:-....Emily Foster daughter of Richard and Miriam..married Thomas Myring..don't know where or when, but that is no longer important.

By 1861 she is widowed and living back with her parents

In 1871 she is married a again to aThomas MEURAW aged 38 living with her daughter Emily Myring aged 11 and her widowed mother.

So i said Whoa this is my pain in the neck Gooner, and that name is ever so like MEASHAM!!
So i checked it out and of course it IS Thomas Horatio Frederick Measham baptised Repton 05.01.1834 son of our Favourite(!!) Gilbert and Mary

Would be great if you didn't already know this,,but of course you do........

Derek xx

Derek, can you see if you can find who Emily Foster married June 1858, Derbyshire possibly Etwall / Findern. I think it may have been Thomas Myring. Many thanks.

Edit Derek it's ok have found them thanks anyway

LOL Derek not so many nightmares as me I bet !!!. Thanks for this next batch maybe I will get nearer to linking them all up one day.

Nearest to Meashams at Measham is Measham at Coalville Leics LOL. Enjoy your scotch.

Information very much appreciated .

LA further to my previous message.....I add these for you perusal:

Repton Birth GILBERT 11.12.1814 son of gilbert and Mary (Meakin???)

Gilbert born 1776 married mary meakin 05.10.1801....you already kniow this one.

Yopu might be interested in one or two Manchester cathedral happenings..

Gilbert Measham married Isabella Potter 23.12.1827 their son Gilbert 21.12.1834 married a Mary Ashton....at manchester Cathedral.

There is one more Gilbert born and married at St.Werbergh's Derby...

Been having nightmares about these bleedin' meashams for a year now!!! lol..have this perverted need to find Measham's at measham!! (Leics)

Ok Gooner....more mischief.........Burials at Repton:- MEASHAM'S of course.

07.05.1862 Ann Rebecca aged 59
25.09.1864 Mary aged 83
08.12.1864 Emma Hannah aged 57
19.09.1865 Ann aged 63
24.10.1866 Martha Ann aged 2
09.12.1866 Harriet aged 34 (Meakin crossed out Measham inserted!!)..you might wonder how many times that might have happened or remained uncorrected)

02.06.1867 John aged 55
07.11.1867 John infant
14/03.1870 Sarah aged 40 (from Burton on trent)
08.10.1872 Robert aged 67
23.07.1873 Elizabeth aged 67
27.06.1874 William infant
31.01.1877 Henry aged 61
21.10.1880 Jane aged 73
17.01.1885 Walter aged 2
22.07.1888 William measham Smith aged 7months
23.11.1889 Elizabeth (of Willington) aged 82
05.01.1897 Ann aged 88
16.03.1899 Leslie john aged 3
08.01.1900 Ann Elizabeth aged 70

The age at death will give you the birth date and i'm sure you're clever enough to match them upo with their spouses!!

Derek..Monumental inscriptios to follow when I've had a large Scotch!1 xx

Derek

Thank you so much Derek. This will keep me out of mischief for a while LOL

OK LA..here are some MEASHAM marriages for you..i know i gave a you a whole host months ago from the Phillimore records up to 1812..here are the post 1812 ones direct from the Reptons PR's:

Not in any particular order!!

JOHN...father oddly given as john Stokes..m Harriet Giles 17.11.1859
ANN daughter of William m. Henry Ward 25.06.1860
GEORGE (aged 23) son of Richard, m.Ann Poyser aged 27.28.08.1869
JAMES nmarried Ann Burton 09.02.1813
HENRY married Ann Pegg 07.10.1834
GEORGE married Ann Rebecca Ward 23.03.1826
THOMAS married Sarah Smith 07.06.1817
THOMAS widower married Ann Needham daughter of Francis and mary 01.12.1821
THOMAS married Elizabeth Turner 09.10.1832
William Measham marreid Elizabeth Wootton 21.08.1833
ROBERT m.Emma Hannah Mugliston 21.07.1834

GILBERT MEASHAM a widower married Mary Ann Parker a widow 13.09.1831.......this i believ is the same gilbert who married Mary Meakin.......

more to0morrow!!

Derek.

Hey madness.sorry no luck with ther Magerisons..I think they are in yorkshire!!

Derek x

I think this is it Derek:

Rachel 15th February 2010 04:33 Request review
Hello Derek
Do you have access to records for Glossop, Hayfield and surrounds...I would like to trace any Margerisons if possible...John Married a Catherine Lister in 1883 and had children....then she did a runner and became Catherine *******..my Gt Grandmother!!! So I would like to trace these descendants as they would be interested to know what became of their Gt Grandmother I am Sure!! Many thanks rach

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Derek 18th February 2010 23:36 Request review
Hello Rachel..sorry for the delay.....I have been unable to find any Margerisons in the records i have....largely becasue they don't go up to 1883..but I have you on my list for my nest trip to Matlock records office. please bear with me.

Derek

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Rachel 25th February 2010 04:45 Request review
thats great thanks. The children were Joseph b1887, John William b 1889..Agnes c1887 Grace 1891, Elizabeth 1893 and Eva 1898. I think the younger girls may have been put in a workhouse? By the 1901 census Catherine was with her new family! Margerison is sometimes misspelt Margison on the records I gather? I would really like to trace these relatives and know what became of them after their mother left. :( Also if you come accross any Lister or Longleys they may well be Catherine Lister's relatives as seamingly Beard and Bridge and Bancroft names are linked through marriage, wich is how i guess they came to be in Glossop from Sheffield?

thanks for that

rt

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Hi Meg....remind me of dates and place..and of course I'll look.

derek.

You could have a look for Rachel's Margerisons Derek. I did a lot of work with her, so would be glad if you could help out.

EDIT: Is something else happening on Thursday? Oh yes, it's wheelie bin day here!

Polling Day is also Matlock Records Office Day.....now that I am fit and raring to go again.........so hit me with your requests!!!! (That's Thursday by the way!!)

Derek.

Peter.thanks for your PM....will get back to you on here....Click on Submit..not my name.

Derek.