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Louisa Jane Smith

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Valda

Valda Report 22 Oct 2013 03:45

I am trying to trace Louisa. Born 1861 Boulton Derbyshire Q3 7b/333. Last reference is 1891 census living with parents William & Annie. Sister Annie S and my grandmother Sophia Jane Wills in Shardlow. Why I'm interested in Louisa is that I suspect that she may be Sophia's mother. Previously we have tried to find birth details of Sophia but no luck but she lived with the Smith family from age 3 to 23+ which is why I think she may be the mother. Any suggestions? Thanks

patchem

patchem Report 22 Oct 2013 06:55

Just putting that 1891 census for reference:

1891 England Census
William Smith Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Annie Smith
Gender: Male Where born: Alvaston, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Alvaston Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England
Registration District: Shardlow Sub-registration District: Shardlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Piece: 2722 Folio: 35 Page Number: 3
William Smith 55
Annie Smith 51
Louisa J Smith 29
Annie S Smith 27
Jane S Wills 13 visitor London
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2722; Folio: 35; Page: 3; GSU Roll: 6097832.

patchem

patchem Report 22 Oct 2013 07:01

Is this Sophia Jane in 1881?

1881 England Census
Sophia Wills Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Edward Wills Mother: Mary Ann Wills
Gender: Female Where born: St Lukes, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Lukes County/Island: London Country: England
Street Address: 1 White Horse Court
Registration District: Holborn Sub-registration District: Whitecross Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Piece: 365 Folio: 69 Page Number: 33
Edward Wills 52
Mary Ann Wills 51
Alfred Wills 17
Arthur Wills 15
Alice Wills 8
Sophia Wills 3
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 365; Folio: 69; Page: 33; GSU roll: 1341079.

This would be the same family in 1891, so rules her out, (Her age is probably wrong, but cannot decide what age has been recorded)

1891 England Census
Sophia Wills Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Gender: Female Where born: St Luke, London, England
Civil Parish: St Luke Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: London County/Island: London Country: England
Registration District: Holborn Sub-registration District: Whitecross Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Piece: 233 Folio: 146 Page Number: 21
Edward Wills 61
Mary Wills 61
Alice Wills 17
Sophia Wills 16
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 233; Folio: 146; Page: 21; GSU Roll: 6095343.

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Oct 2013 12:29

Did Sophia marry?

Did she name a father?

safc

safc Report 22 Oct 2013 12:57

????

Sophia J Wills, "England and Wales Census, 1901"
Name: Sophia J Wills
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender:
Age: 23
Relationship to Head of Household: Adopted Daughter
Birthplace: London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Shardlow
Sub-District: Shardlow
Ecclesiastical Parish: Alvaston St Michael
Civil Parish: Alvaston And Boulton
District/Parish/County: Derbyshire

Valda

Valda Report 22 Oct 2013 22:27

Thanks all. Sophia's father as per her marriage cert is Harry James Board Wills. She married William Parrott in Oxford on 13/8/1910. Sophia first appears on 1881 census with the Smith family then in 1891 & 1901. I have searched everywhere I can think of to find Sophia with no luck so thought following Louisa Smith may help. Her sister Annie I have been able to trace but Louisa is a mystery. For Sophia to live with the Smiths for so long and then they raised her illegitimate son up to the 1911 census as this is as far as we can trace him - surely it must mean something. Hence trying to trace Louisa . Thanks to genesreunited friends I have contacted her son's living family. The sons name is Henry Inness Wills (on 1911 census) Both Louisa & Annie are not at the Smith residence on the 1911 census. Any thoughts? Thanks

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 23 Oct 2013 08:54

Is it possible that Louisa went out to Australia too?

It certainly looks likely that she is Sophia's mother.

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Oct 2013 22:15

1901 that safc found.


1901 census transcription details for: -, House & Shop, London Road, Alvaston And Boulton, Alvaston
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 3207
Folio: 68
Page: 17
Reg. District: Shardlow
Sub District: Shardlow
Parish: Alvaston and Boulton
Enum. District: 11
Ecclesiastical District: Alvaston St Michael
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: -, House & Shop, London Road, Alvaston And Boulton, Alvaston
County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SMITH, William Head Widower M 68 1833 Joiner & Builder
Deaf Alvaston, Derbyshire
SMITH, Annie S Daughter Single F 36 1865 Housekeeper
Boulton, Derbyshire
WILLS, Sophia J Adopted Daughter Single F 23 1878 Assistnt Housekeeper
London
HUNT, Bertha H Servant Single F 13 1888 General Domestic
Peckham, London


and that 1911

1911 census transcription details for: London Road Alvaston
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN20814 RG78PN1243 RD434 SD3 ED1 SN27
Reg. District: Shardlow
Sub District: Shardlow
Parish: Alvaston and Boulton
Enum. District: 1
Address: London Road Alvaston
County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
SMITH, William Head Widower M 78 1833 Joiner And Builder Alvaston Derby
JACKSON, Elizabeth Widow F 57 1854 Laundress Thurlston Derby
JACKSON, Eliza Single F 17 1894 Thurlston Derbyshire
WILLS, Henry Hiniss M 6 1905 School Melton Mowbury Leicestershire

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Oct 2013 22:31

Name: Harry James Board Wills
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1856
Registration District: Cheltenham
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 324


and his probate, but they are not mentioned.

Name: Harry James Board Wills
Probate Date: 16 Aug 1919
Death Date: 13 Jan 1919
Death Place: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales
Registry: Carmarthen

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Oct 2013 22:49

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1324883?page=1


and more on this family.

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK/2013-03/1363493297

Valda

Valda Report 24 Oct 2013 02:10

Thanks I have looked into travel but could not find her. A friend has found a death of a Louisa Smith Q1 1892 Islington London 1B/193 aged 30. I don't know if buying the death cert will prove anything. Also a few marriages so will try to follow them up. Many thanks for the help.

Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Jan 2014 10:17

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/tips_board/thread/1336728