Genealogy Chat

Greeting's Again Bev No. 2. Have you made a typo mistake with Harriett's Birth Year ( 1850) I have it down from your original request has 1880....... Having looked at the 1881. Census again. Just wonder if the ' Widow' aged 31. was to cover up the Illegitimate children....??? There's a Jane Carter aged 21. born Earl Shilton on the 1871. Census working as a Domestic Servant to James & Julia Squires Boot Manfs. at No. 7. Victoria Road in Leicester ( This is now University Road ) MIKE.

Hi Beverly, I just had a quick look at your problem, and I wondered if you'd thought of searching outside Leicestershire for the births? It looks as though the two children were Jane's illegitimate children (her maiden name was Carter), and she may well have gone away from home to have them.

Greeting's Again Jan...... Did you check out ST. GEORGE'S Parish ( Swanington ) ? Although the Church is in Swanington it DOES cover some of Whitwick. MIKE.

Hi Mike A while back you very kindly looked in the baptism records for St Marys for my grandfather George Carter b abt 1873 and his sister Harriett Carter b abt 1850., as I am unable to find any birth records for either of them Unfortunately you couldn't find anything. Their Mother Jane Carter was listed on the 1881 Census as a Widower. However Jane married a John Collins in 1882 and her marriage certificate states she was a spinster at that time. I may be clutching at straws here but I am wondering if George and Harriet are Johns children anyway, although I still cannot find birth records under the name of Collins. Is there any place else that you can think of, that I could check to give me any clues as to the fathers of George and Jane, or do you think I am scuppered! When George married my grandmother in 1910 he listed his father as George Carter (Deceased). I believe this to be his Grandfather George (Jane's father). Confusing this family history lark isn't it? Yours hopefully Bev

Oo-er, Mike - didn't realise it covered that many!!! Emma's date of birth: 26 Oct 1906; Joseph after 1901. Where I have I searched? All the registers for Whitwick area - St John's, St Andrew's (Thringstone) etc for the general period. I keep thinking I must have missed them! Stoney Stanton would be Hinckley? So that idea's not going to wash. They had their children baptised at St John's Whitwick so I was surprised not to find the marriage there. Mike, if you find this, especially if I've missed it, you deserve a medal! Jan

Greeting's Jan...... Ummmm......... I see from the GRO Ref's (7a. 279.) for BOTH it stated the District was Ashby De La Zouch.... Which in those days consisted of 32 Parishes..... You stated :- ' but I can't find the marriage locally (Whitwick).' Can I ask what resources did you look at ? Did you looked at the Parish Registers for Whitwick for that year ? This is to insure I don't duplicate the same..... Also have you birth dates of Joseph & Emily ? MIKE.

Hi Mike Wonder if you could find where this couple married? I've got the date (18 Dec 1926) and the GRO reference but I can't find the marriage locally (Whitwick). They were Joseph Moore (b Whitwick) and Emily Burrows (b Stoney Stanton) Emily's mother had died and she came to live with her gran in Whitwick, but her father (Samuel) I believe was still in Stoney Stanton. I would be soooooo grateful.... Jan

Evening Mike, You have taken me back another generation, thankyou very much. Now I think I will be putting you up for bed and breakfast now next time to are in Lincs. Oh and I will throw in a bit of lunch, you are so kind to do these look ups not only for me but for all the others on this thread. Take care Sue........x

Thanks very much, Mike. I think at this point I'll apply to the GRO for the William Screaton certificate with a checking point that the mother must be Mary, and if that draws a blank, I'll try contacting the Rothley Baptist Church. Thanks a lot for all your help with it - I'll let you know the outcome.

*** F.A.O. *** Sue….. MARRIAGES Found……. Fiche De 437. / 5. Envelope 1 of 1. St. Mary’s Parish Church. Willoughby Waterless. Page. 3. Entry No. 8. William Page. Bachelor of this Parish. Elizabeth HACKET. Spinster of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By me :~ John Miller. Curate. This Seventh Day of November. In the year of our Lord. One Thousand Eight Hundred and Fourteen. William signed by his own Signature. Elizabeth by her Mark = X. Wit’s :~ Hester Page. By her Mark = + Edward Thornton by own Signature. So No clues to Parents there then ? Edward seems to be part of the Church he appears on several entries. The Marriage proceeding this one Page 3. Entry No. 7. Following Banns. William HACKET. Bachelor of this Parish. Sarah Middleton. Spinster of this Parish. 11th. October. 1814. John Miller Curate. BOTH Signed by their own Marks = X.... + Wit’s :- James Arnold. Mary Burton These two go onto marry at Willoughby Waterless 15th. November. 1818. He of the Parish of Lubbesthorpe. BAPTISM. Fiche Temp Loan No. 5. Envelope 1 of 1. St. Peter’s Parish Church Whetstone. 18TH. August 1793. Elizabeth HACKET. Daughter of John & Elizabeth Hacket. Hope this is of help to you ? MIKE. xxx *** F.A.O.***…. Mary from Italy. Sorry but the Records Office at Wigston does NOT hold any Baptist Church Records for Rothley…. Advise you to get in touch with the Church via Snail mail. But as of yet I have not found a contact address for this Church. Other than it stands on North Street Rothley The Main District point of contact seems :- Revd. David Grainger. Or Revd. Matthew Powell. Loughborough Baptist Church. Baxter gate. Loughborough. Leicestershire. LE 11 1 TG. Or Mountsorrel Baptist Church. Loughborough Road. Mountsorrel. Leicestershire. LE 12. MIKE.xx .... Who can't type quick....:o/

Hi Mike, Any luck with William North, or haven't you been to Wigston this week?

Greeting's Again John ... I'm glad your copy has arrived mine came Tuesday I did send you message to this effect via your E-mail Address..... Re your query St. Margaret's With Bishop's Fee. ? I can only think that it relates to the Churches which were on the outskirts of the District of the Mother Church St. Margaret's eg St. Matthews Estate...... St. Matthews Church, St. Luke's Church, Christ Church. .. Where they paid a levy to the Mother Church... But there again I could be wrong but I will ask next time I'm at Wigston ... MIKE.

Greetings again Mike Re my earlier PM, June Journal arrived this am. Can you please advise what 'St Margarets with Bishops Fee' means, as seen on Leicester 1841 Census ?. Regards Jon

Hi Mike, Thank you for your help re: Roger Newton, (born approx 1944) 2,Hamilton Street Leicester, (His parnets ran a wet fish shop there) Unfortunately Ray is not his brother. Can you help any further? I am at a loss as to how I might find him?? Regards Kay

Mike Thankyou... Sue..............

Greeting's Again Sue.... Whetstone ~ Willoughby Waterless. = 3.9.. Miles. I'll have a look at BOTH events and get back to you... We might have guessed it ..... with your Tree.... If in doubt look at Whetstone Parish....lol :o))) MIKE.xx

Morning Mike, I have had a look in IGI there is a Elizabeth Hackett bap 1793 Whetstone is that near Willoughby her parents were John and Elizabeth.If there isn't a Elizabeth Hackett bn Willoughby about that time can I assume that this one is her? Sue.....

Greeting's again Sue..... Ummm ? ...I doubt it .... But there again if Elizabeth's Father was a Witness then your in luck. I've had a look on several on my disks but can only confirm that the Marriage took place....7th. Nov. 1814. Assuming Elizabeth was about 20 when married we go back 20 odd years ......1794. I did spot a John Hackett's Baptism in Willoughby Waterless 18th Sept. 1791. Father = William Mother = Catherina. But having said all that I can have a look for you next time I'm at Wigston ... MIKE. xx

Thanks Mike. I have a marriage for Elizabeth Hackett to William Page Willoughby Waterless 7th Nov 1814. Would this year say who the fathers were please? Sue

Greeting's Sue... In a word......Yes Leicestershire & Rutland Burials 1813. ~ 1891. MIKE.xx