Genealogy Chat

Cooeee Bob.... jess

Bob, she'd have only been 15 in 1891..married? I'm born blonde - What's your excuse??!! Baverstock, Frederick James 1897 June Marriages Portsea Island Hampshire >Clark, Edith Harriett 1897 June Marriages Portsea Island Hampshire Cronan, Ada 1897 June Marriages Portsea Island Hampshire >Spencer, Albert Edward 1897 June Marriages Portsea Island Hampshire 1901 Albert Spencer abt 1868 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Head Portsmouth Hampshire Edith Spencer abt 1876 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Wife Portsmouth Hampshire ............................................................................... 1891 tucked up with ma and Pa! Clark, Albert abt 1885 Portsmouth, Hampshire / Hantshaving Son Portsea Hampshire Clark, Arthur abt 1875 Portsmouth, Hampshire / Hantshaving Son Portsea Hampshire Clark, Charles abt 1847 Portsmouth, Hampshire / Hantshaving Head Portsea Hampshire Clark, Charles abt 1873 Portsmouth, Hampshire / Hantshaving Son Portsea Hampshire Clark, Edith abt 1876 Portsmouth, Hampshire / Hantshaving Daughter Portsea Hampshire Clark, Frank abt 1882 Portsmouth, Hampshire / Hantshaving Son Portsea Hampshire Clark, Harriet abt 1851 Portsmouth, Hampshire / Hantshaving Wife Portsea Hampshire Clark, Stanley abt 1877 Portsmouth, Hampshire / Hantshaving Son Portsea Hampshire

samantha. There is one George W and 5 pages of just George... Name: George W Straughan Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Head Household:wife= Emily S,Daughters Margaret and Minnie Gender: Male Where born: Newcastle on Tyne Civil parish: Byker Ecclesiatical parish: St Michael Town: Newcastle upon Tyne County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:42 Langhorn St Condition as to marriage:Married Occupation: Machine engineer Source information: RG13/4788 Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub-registration district: Byker ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 193 Page: 33 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 220

Ed, I can't see her...have you got those details from 1881 ?

Bob, cant search 1891 by address . Where were they born and when? Bad fri 13th?-i have a bad 'everyday' at the moment!

Yep Jess All kids listed were from his first marriage He only had 1 child in his second marriage and i know him as he is my nans brother (all the kids I said are now deceased apart from MARGARET and she is now a MOORE) Debs

Deb - trying to sort out your first Pilsbury marriage.- (i assume you mean the children were from his first marriage) This is probably the birth record for Violet Name: PILSBURY, Violet Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1904 District: West Bromwich County: Shropshire Staffordshire Worcestershire Volume: 6b Page: 887 (click to see others on page . (*trying to establish when he married) Without knowing who he married and when it is very difficult! If Violet is a child from this first marriage, send for her birth cert and it will give you her mothers name and maiden name .......................................................... You can look the marriages up on free BMD

Hi Again Jess Are there any marriage /death records for (1) JOSEPH SUTTON born 1830 (2) JOHN H SUTTON born 1856 (think BETSY'S maiden was MILLER) (3) JOHN SUTTON born 1886 (married a SELINA HANDLEY , he died abt 1934) He was apparently a LAYPREACHER at UNION PLACE CHAPEL in Coventry ************************************************** Forgot this one from PILSBURY too Any marriage records for WILLIAM PILSBURY born 1886 , ETTINGSHALL , STAFFORDSHIRE , I know he too married SELINA (after 1934, probably about 1939) but he was apparently married once before SELINA , there were children born into this marriage , called HILDA , VIOLET ,KATHERINE,WILLIAM and MARGARET (most likely to be the STAFFORDSHIRE area) Cheers again Debs

Jess I have just been looking through paperwork of the info I have so far on the SUTTONS I have a piece sayin ; CHARLES JOSEPH SUTTON born 11 sept 1891 in WESTON IN ARDEN , NR NUNEATON if that is any more help Debs LOL I just sussed why I was getting lost with Pilsburys , I was looking for new posts not a previous one updated (thought I was going mad as info that was not there before on the Suttons is now there , had to double check x 3 with the info you gave me earlier on the printout i done, thankfully i'm not losing the plot) Also I have found where WESTON IN ARDEN IS FOR FOR CHARLES and LEONARD births(which sounds right to me ) but on the RG13 census Pc 2900 fo.33 pg i (its in a place called BULKINGTON , WARWICKSHIRE) Yes that is the right ELLEN as is ALBERT ;-))

Yep i know , gonna have to go digging i think to see what Walton on the hill means (presumably a small village on top of a hill , from there I may be able to work out where they were as I do know all of us(past and present) were born in Warwickshire Lol , I just had a brainwave , hows about searching Walton on the HILL is it (RG12 FOR 1891) as CHARLES 10 and LEONARD 6(AS IN 1901) were born there , surely that would find them for the 1891 census wouldn't it or is that my brain running away with my thoughts again !? Debs

Deb , given that they are i the bossom of the family i wouldn't worry about it too much.There probably was a village ,now gone, in the area- it does say Warwickshire!

P.S where is Walton on the hill ? I searched for it and I came up with Surrey and Surrey is not in Warwickshire ??? I am confused Debs

Cheers Jess Can't think where they could be for '91 as they appear to be always in warwickshire which includes Rugby , Coventry , don't know if it would perhaps be Northamptonshire , Staffordshire (know some of family were born in Nuneaton area , or what would have been Nuneaton at the time before boundary changes) Also know there was a daughter ELLEN ETHEL born at Shilton 19 April 1884 , dont know if she died soon after birth ! but dont seem to pick her up either Debs

Debs this might againbe the Ellen you want Albert Edward Sutton 27 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Head Coventry Warwickshire >Ellen Sutton 18 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Sister Coventry Warwickshire Ernest Sutton 1 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Son Coventry Warwickshire Eugenie Sarah Sutton 27 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Wife Coventry Warwickshire William Sutton 56 Lipson, Leicestershire, England Father Coventry Warwickshire address (wierd!) 17House 4C Spon ST

Thanks, George

debs 1861 Charles I Sutton 1859 Draycote, Warwickshire, England Son Bourton Warwickshire John H Sutton 1856 Wolston, Warwickshire, England Son Bourton Warwickshire Joseph Sutton 1830 Wolston, Warwickshire, England Head Bourton Warwickshire Mary Sutton 1829 Dunchurch, Warwickshire, England Wife Bourton Warwickshire Thomas E Sutton 1860 Draycote, Warwickshire, England Son Bourton Warwickshire Address :household 61 Bourton 1871 John H Sutton 1856 Wolston, Warwickshire, England Son Wolston Warwickshire Joseph Sutton 1831 Wolston, Warwickshire, England Head Wolston Warwickshire Joseph C Sutton 1858 Draycott, Warwickshire, England Son Wolston Warwickshire Mary A Sutton 1831 Dunchurch, Warwickshire, England Wife Wolston Warwickshire Thomas E Sutton 1859 Draycott, Warwickshire, England Son Wolston Warwickshire address: household 59 Wolston 1881 Ada E. Butcher abt 1878 Sowe, Warwickshire, England Daughter Potters Green, Sowe, Warwickshire, England Albert E. Butcher abt 1877 Sowe, Warwickshire, England Son Potters Green, Sowe, Warwickshire, England Charles E. Butcher abt 1846 Breakley, Northamptonshire, England Head Potters Green, Sowe, Warwickshire, England Lydia Butcher abt 1847 Tysde, Warwickshire, England Wife Potters Green, Sowe, Warwickshire, England Violet M. Butcher abt 1880 Sowe, Warwickshire, England Daughter Potters Green, Sowe, Warwickshire, England John H. Sutton abt 1856 Wolston, Warwickshire, England Lodger Potters Green, Sowe, Warwickshire, England address; Potters Green. Sowe 1891- mistranscribed a Lutton! Lutton, Betsy abt 1857 Ryton, Warwickshire Wife Bulkington Warwickshire Lutton, Ellen abt 1885 Shilton, Warwickshire Daughter Bulkington Warwickshire Lutton, John abt 1857 Wolston, Warwickshire Head Bulkington Warwickshire Lutton, John abt 1889 Bulkington, Warwickshire Son Bulkington Warwickshire Lutton, Joseph abt 1883 Potters Green, Warwickshire Son Bulkington Warwickshire Lutton, Thomas abt 1887 Coombe, Warwickshire Son Bulkington Warwickshire address:household 4 Weston in Arden 1901 Betsy Sutton 45 Ryton, Warwickshire, England Wife Foleshill Warwickshire Charles Sutton 10 Walton-on-the-Hill, Warwickshire, England Son Foleshill Warwickshire John Sutton 45 Wolston, Warwickshire, England Head Foleshill Warwickshire John Sutton 13 Bulkington, Warwickshire, England Son Foleshill Warwickshire Joseph Sutton 18 Sowe, Warwickshire, England Son Foleshill Warwickshire Leonard Sutton 6 Walton-on-the-Hill, Warwickshire, England Son Foleshill Warwickshire Mary Sutton 3 Ryton, Warwickshire, England Daughter Foleshill Warwickshire Thomas Sutton 14 Coombe, Warwickshire, England Son Foleshill Warwickshire address household 59 Gladys terrace ........................................................................ Birth Ref for Albert Edward Sutton Name: Sutton, Albert Edward Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1901 District: Foleshill County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 531 ...................... Ellen Ethel (Is she the one above) Name: Sutton, Ellen Ethel Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1884 District: Foleshill County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 512 (click to see others on page)

george Alfred Cecil 10 Edmonton, Middlesex, England Son Edmonton Middlesex Eliza Cecil 53 Islington, London, England Wife Edmonton Middlesex Harold Cecil 7 Edmonton, Middlesex, England Son Edmonton Middlesex Walter Cecil 13 Stoke Newington, London, England Son Edmonton Middlesex William Cecil 57 Bethnal Green, London, England Head Edmonton Middlesex Annie Wade 9 Edmonton, Middlesex, England Granddaughter Edmonton Middlesex address 146 Town road. Source information: RG13/1264 Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Edmonton ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Folio: 9 Page: 10 Household schedule number: 52

Hi Jess is it possible to search the 1901 by address please. Thank you Lita

Hi Jess lookin for John Harper Sutton born 1855/6 in Wolston Warwickshire from as early to as late as records are available for him please Also trying to find Ellen Ethel Suttton born 19 April , 1884 Albert Edward Sutton born 6 june 1901 cheers Debs

Hadn't thought of that name, thanks. Will start hunting again now Maddie (Have just posted my life story on the adoptee thread if that's ok)