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23 Feb 2013 12:45 |
born in 1883, london - his parents were william Benjamin Bates and Annie sophia Soilleux. Ernest married Rose Annie Pemberton approx 1914. Looking for any information on relative after 1914 - he drops out of sight after this time.
Many thanks everyone- Gillian will have a look at this board when she gets back from the show :)
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23 Feb 2013 12:53 |
Just for ref
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Ernest Samuel Bates Name: Ernest Samuel Bates Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Age: 32 Spouse Name: Rose Annie Pemberton Spouse Age: 25 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 7 Nov 1914 Parish: Stamford Hill St John, Vartry Road Borough: Haringey Father Name: William Benjamin Bates Spouse Father Name: Samuel Joseph Pemberton Register Type: Parish Register
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23 Feb 2013 12:55 |
The marriage cert gives him as living 18 Grayling Road
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Ernest Samuel Bates Name: Ernest Samuel Bates Year: 1915 County or Borough: Hackney Ward or Division/Constituency: Hackney North Street Address: 18 Grayling road
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PricklyHolly
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23 Feb 2013 13:11 |
Is this Rose's death??
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Rose A Bates Name: Rose A Bates Birth Date: abt 1887 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1966 Age at Death: 79 Registration district: Sutton Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5e Page: 261
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Rose Annie Pemberton Name: Rose Annie Pemberton Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1886 Registration district: West Ham Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 261
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23 Feb 2013 13:16 |
His death in same district as his wife's?
Ernest S Bates Birth Date: abt 1884 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1968 Age at Death: 84 Registration district: Sutton Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5e Page: 344
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Choccy
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23 Feb 2013 13:34 |
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Ernest Samuel Bates Year: 1965 County or Borough: Merton Ward or Division/Constituency: Merton and Morden Street Address: 87 Claremont Avenue Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/3050 living with Rose A Bates
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PricklyHolly
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23 Feb 2013 13:37 |
It seems Ernest's Mother preferred the name Minnie.
Household transcription 1911 census Person: BATES, Ernest Samuel Address: 18 Grayling Road Stoke Newington
BATES, Minnie Head Widow F 55 1856 London Finsbury VIEW BATES, Ernest Samuel Son Single M 27 1884 Clerk Provision Merchants London Clerkenwell VIEW BATES, Grace Agnes Daughter Single F 25 1886 Clerk Milliners London Clerkenwell VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 1010 Reference: RG14PN1010 RG78PN34 RD11 SD1 ED6 SN200 Registration District: Hackney Sub District: Stoke Newington Enumeration District: 6 Parish: Stoke Newington Address: 18 Grayling Road Stoke Newington County: London (3 children born and living)
1901 England Census about Ernest Bates Name: Ernest Bates Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Bates Mother's name: Minnie Bates Gender: Male Where born: Clerkenwell, London, England Civil parish: Clerkenwell Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Redeemer Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: Amwell ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 74 Piece: 253 Folio: 89 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age William Bates 47 (Ventilator Maker) (Same occupation that appears on Ernest's marriage record) Minnie Bates 45 Percy Bates 19 Ernest Bates 19 (17 on th image) Grace Bates 15
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23 Feb 2013 13:56 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about William Benjamin Bates Bates Name: William Benjamin Bates Bates Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 15 Jan 1854 Father's Name: Samuel Bates (Labourer) Mother's name: Charlotte Bates Abode: 6 Jacobs Well Parish or Poor Law Union: St Giles without Cripplegate Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
Deaths Dec 1903 (>99%) Bates William B B 50 Weymouth 5a 178
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MaureeninNY
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23 Feb 2013 14:00 |
The deaths (and everything else :-)) seem to be spot on. When Rose Annie dies in 1966-probate to David Stretton WHITEHEAD (textile manager).
I don't like getting close to the 100 year rule but it's fairly easy using FreeBMD to figure out the daughter's name.
Maureen
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PricklyHolly
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23 Feb 2013 14:19 |
Oh ~~~~~~~~waves excitedly!! :-D
Hello Maureen..........i haven't seen you on the boards for ages!!
Hope all is good with you.
Prickles. x
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PricklyHolly
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23 Feb 2013 14:27 |
I missed this first time round.
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Rose Annie Bates Name: Rose Annie Bates Probate Date: 5 Oct 1966 Death Date: 17 Aug 1966 Death Place: Surrey, England Registry: London, England
Of 87 Claremont Avenue New Molden Surrey....at the General Hospital Sutton Surrey.
To David Stretton WHITEHEAD textile manager
Effects: £688
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Gillian
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4 Mar 2013 13:35 |
Hi Many thanks I have most of this, especially up to 1914, was just hoping there might be somebody out there from Ernests side of the family, that we might reconnect? there was a big rift about then and Ernest was never mentioned in my fathers family but dad never knew why!? Gill
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SylviaInCanada
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4 Mar 2013 19:22 |
Gill
To find connections, you really have to do a Search Trees on this site, to find out if there are any trees containing Ernest or Rose's names, and then contact the owner of the tree(s) by private message.
Very few people troll the Boards looking for contacts.
Clock on Search near the top of the screen
Click on Search All Trees
Good luck
sylvia
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