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Martha Roe/Row/Robottom

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Mark

Mark Report 15 Apr 2012 13:40

Please may i ask for help in a search for a marriage between Martha Roe/Row/Robottom to my 3 x great grandad Robert Trickett - the marriage c ert is very hard to read and i have only just managed to decipher this information.....

Much appreciated

Poss Hayfield, Derbyshire or Lancashire area..

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Apr 2012 13:45

What sort of date ?

Mark

Mark Report 15 Apr 2012 13:47

Born c.1842 and 2nd marriage was 1897 if that helps

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Apr 2012 13:48

1901 is this the couple ?

Name: Robert Trickett
Age: 75
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha Trickett
Gender: Male
Where born: Rossendale, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Hayfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Phoside
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hayfield
Sub-registration district: Hayfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Piece: 3278
Folio: 27
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Trickett 75
Martha Trickett 59

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Apr 2012 13:49

From FreeBMD

Marriages Mar 1897 (>99%)
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GREGSON Martha Bolton 8c 581
HIGGINBOTTOM James Bolton 8c 581
SWINDELLS Annie Bolton 8c 581
Trickett Robert Bolton 8c 581


Do you mean this one ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Apr 2012 13:56

Name: Robert Trickett
Probate Date: 22 Nov 1907
Death Date: 3 Nov 1907
Death Place: Derbyshire, England
Registry: London


Robert Trickett of Highgate, Hayfield, Derbyshire
George William Eyre, printers foreman and Samuel Bowden, assistant overseer
Effects £1125 15s 6d



Did his wife die before him?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Apr 2012 13:58

Where have you got her maiden name from ?

Mark

Mark Report 15 Apr 2012 14:16

I have my 3 x great grandfathers marriage certicates from the GRO... and the certicate says Widow

It would appear that i am looking for a marriage between a male Gregson to a female Rowbottom or variat of spelling

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Apr 2012 14:19

Mark, is it her father's name that you're struggling to make out as that would be her maiden name?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Apr 2012 14:22

On the 1901 Martha's birthplace is shown as Edale, so this could well be her in 1891:

GREGSON, Martha Head Widow F 50 1841 Weaver Cotton Mill Edale Derbyshire
GREGSON, Handel Son Single M 23 1868 Weaver Cotton Mill Heywood Lancashire
TAYLOR, William Lodger Single M 24 1867 Loom Overlooker Cotton Mill Shuttleworth Lancashire

Registration District: Bolton
Civil Parish: Turton

Address: 56, Cox Green Road, Turton, Bradshaw County: Lancashire

Mark

Mark Report 15 Apr 2012 14:23

No my 3x great grandad Robert Trickett married a lady her 2nd marriage and i did not realise until this morning when i looked again at the certificate that she was a widow

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Apr 2012 14:23

1891 matches on place of birth

Name: Martha Gregson
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Edale, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Turton
Ecclesiastical parish: Walmesley (Walmsley)
Town: Bradshaw
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Turton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3110
Folio: 60
Page Number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Martha Gregson 50
Handel Gregson 23
William Taylor 24

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Apr 2012 14:26

I think this may be the son's marriage, so it gives us Martha's first husband's name:

Marriage: 13 Apr 1895 St Thomas, Barrowford, Lancashire, England
Handel Gregson - 27 Weaver Bachelor of Barrowford
Martha Ann Smithson - 23 Weaver Spinster of Barrowford
Groom's Father: Richard Gregson, Deceased, Weaver
Bride's Father: Isaiah Smithson, Weaver
Witness: Charles Smithson; Emma Burrows
Married by Banns by: A F S Studdy Vicar
Register: Marriages 1844 - 1900, Page 135, Entry 270
Source: LDS Film 1471022

Mark

Mark Report 15 Apr 2012 14:28

ok so why is the surname showing as Roebottom or variant spelling

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Apr 2012 14:33

Mark, where exactly on the certificate does it saw Roebottom?

What does it give as her father's name?

Mark

Mark Report 15 Apr 2012 14:35

In the section where it states fathers name - also states deceased

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Apr 2012 14:39

.. and can you make out the father's first name? Does it give his late occupation?

Mark

Mark Report 15 Apr 2012 14:42

The occupation reads as possibly - Tanner

Possible spelling for fathers name is ......

First name begins with P or R and continues with ....

_ i l_nan or man

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Apr 2012 14:53

??

1851 England Census
Name: Martha Rowbolton [Martha Rowbottom]
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Philemon Rodbottin
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Rodbottin
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Edale, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Charlesworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Charlesworth
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:

Registration district: Hayfield
Sub-registration district: Glossop
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 142
Piece: 2152
Folio: 523
Page Number: 46

Household Members:
Name Age
Philemon Rodbottin 56 < Labourer
Elizabeth Rodbottin 40
Sarah Cressel 17
Mary Rodbottne 16
Martha Rowbolton 9 ??
John Rowbolton 7
Ellen Rowbolton 3
Philemon Rowbolton 1 Mo

They've had fun with those transcriptions! I'd say it's definitely Rowbottom on the original.

Mark

Mark Report 15 Apr 2012 14:55

MarieCeleste

You are an absolute star ;) thank you ever so much - now to findout who mr gregson is who she married ...