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24 Sep 2009 15:53 |
I am in possession of my husband Fathers BC it shows he was born th 12 Seprember 1937, 50 St Margaret Road, Coventry.
Name of Father Harold Henry Harding occupation Coventry Corporation Motor Omnibus Conductor.
Name of Mother Jane Elizabeth Harding foremerly Plant.
Residence 50 St Margaret Road, Coventry.
Looking for any help with fidnind out about his parents etc.
Thanks Candis
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24 Sep 2009 15:55 |
Best to start off with buying their marriage cert. there are lots of births about the correct time for them both!
Marriages Jun 1931 Harding Harold H Plant Coventry 6d 1599 Plant Jane E Harding Coventry 6d 1599
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24 Sep 2009 15:57 |
Candis
You should be able to find Harold and Jane on the 1911 census if they were over 20 when they married.
Janet
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24 Sep 2009 16:05 |
I will order the marriage cert.
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9 Oct 2009 17:27 |
I am now in possession of the marriage certifcate.
Details are as follows
Harold Henry Harding 24 years old, Batchelor, Mecahnic Motor Car Adjustments resdince 50 St Margarets Road Coventry, Father George Harding, deceased, Greengorocer.
Jane Elizabeth Plant 21 years old, Spinster, General Domestic, Residence " Brooklands" The Crescent Hampton In Arden, Father Samuel Plant, Coal Miner.
Any help in findind these two families would be very much appreicated.
Thanks Candis
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9 Oct 2009 17:35 |
Thanks for that Jonesey,
Husband did say that there was a staffordshire connection somewhere.
Candis
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9 Oct 2009 18:40 |
Witnesses are F M Harding and something Lear
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9 Oct 2009 19:49 |
1911 census transcription details for: 13 Stewart Road East Bournemouth RG14PN5862 RG78PN267 RD95 SD2 ED31 SN61 Reg. District: Christchurch Sub District: Bournemouth Parish: Bournemouth Enum. District: 31 Address: 13 Stewart Road East Bournemouth County: Hampshire
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born HARDING, George Head Married M 56 1855 Green Grocery Barrow Dorchester HARDING, Alice Wife F 30 1881 London HARDING, Louisa Daughter Single F 24 1887 Kitchen Maid On Boarding House Bournemouth HARDING, Frederick Son M 8 1903 Bournemouth HARDING, Queenie Daughter M 7 1904 Bournemouth HARDING, Harold Son M 4 1907 Bournemouth HARDING, Violet Daughter F 2 1909 Bournemouth SMITH, Margaret Visitor Married F 25 1886 Liverpool
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9 Oct 2009 19:53 |
Jonesey's right on the money again!
RG14PN16938 RG78PN1047 RD368 SD2 ED5 SN96 Reg. District: Cannock Sub District: Cannock Parish: Cannock Enum. District: 5 Address: Old Fallow Cannock County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born PLANT, Samuel Head Married M 28 1883 Coal Miner Hewer Newsastle Staffs PLANT, Leander Wife Married 6 years F 28 1883 Walsall Wood Staffs PLANT, Agnes Jane Daughter F 5 1906 Cannock Staffs PLANT, Lily May Daughter F 3 1908 Cannock Staffs PLANT, Jane Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1910 Cannock Staffs
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9 Oct 2009 21:16 |
Thank you very much both.
The other other witness I now have manage to figure it out is E J Lear/Leak.
Looks like George had possibly been previously marrried.
Candis
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10 Oct 2009 21:16 |
Following from the 1911 census
Harding Gerorge Head Married M 56 1855 Green Grocery Barrow Dorchester Harding Alice Wife F 30 1881 London Married 10 years Harding Louisa Daugher Single F 24 1887 Kitchen Maid on Boaring House Bournemouth Harding Frederick Son M 8 1903 Bournemouth Harding Queenie Daughter F 7 1904 Bournemouth Harding Violet Daugher F 2 1909 Bournemouth Smith Margaret Vistior Married F 25 1886 Liverpool Number of children born alive 6, children still living 5, children who have died 1
Plant Samuel Head Married M 28 1883 Coal Miner Hewer Newcastle Staffs Plant Leander Wife Married 6 years F 28 1883 Walsall Wood staffs Pant Agnes Jane Daughter F 5 1906 Cannock Staffs Plant Lily May Daughter F 3 1908 Cannock Staffs Plant Jane Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1910 Cannock Staffs
Can anyone find these families on the 1901 census or eariler,
Candis
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11 Oct 2009 06:12 |
Hi Candis, Thumbs up for getting the marriage cert. Well done!
At the moment I'll focus on the PLANTs. Let's do the probable date,place and that unusual name-"Leander" a good try on FreeBMD.
Marriages Mar 1905 Plant Samuel Cannock 6b 540 Rogers Lender Cannock 6b 540
Still using FreeBMD: a birth for: Births Jun 1884 Rogers Leanda Walsall 6b 793
Best, Maureen
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11 Oct 2009 10:06 |
Hi Maureen
Thanks for that.
Looks like I have managed to find a marriage on free bmd for George Harding and a Alice Burrup
Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harding George Willis Barnet 3a 593 Burrup Alice Barnet 3a 593
I cannot seem to find a birth for either Alice or George using free bmd.
Candis
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11 Oct 2009 10:13 |
Hi Candis,
I am working on George - I have a birth and am trying to follow him through the census but no proof yet.
The birth is:
Births Mar 1855 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harding George John Dorchester 5a 329
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I won't put the census up yet as there are a few possibilities and I need to eliminate some of them first.
I have a feeling his first wife was Emily Louisa but not yet sure.
Dea x
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11 Oct 2009 14:51 |
My hunting so far: 1891 FMP RG number: RG12 Piece: 2258 Folio: 104 Page: 54 Reg. District: Walsall Sub District: Aldridge Parish: Walsall Foreign Enum. District: 12 Ecclesiastical District: St Johns City/Municipal Borough: Walsall Address: Hollinders Lane, Walsall Foreign, Walsall Wood, Walsall County: Staffordshire
ROGERS, Samuel Head Married M 37 1854 Coal Miner Rushall Staffordshire ROGERS, Jane Wife Married F 34 1857 Walsall Staffordshire ROGERS, Mary Daughter F 8 1883 Walsall Wood Staffordshire ROGERS, Leander Daughter F 6 1885 Walsall Wood Staffordshire ROGERS, Samuel Son M 4 1887 Walsall Wood Staffordshire
1901 Ancestry (I found this one interesting because of the occupation of her employer. I swear it says he's a stained glass artist.) Name: Leander Rogers Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Servant Where born: Walsall Wood, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Walsall Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:25 Westbourne? Road Registration district: Walsall Sub-registration district: Aldridge ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 179 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Jones 32 Ada M Jones 32 Edna J Jones 1 Leander Rogers 18 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2706; Folio: 20; Page: 31.
And surprise-Leander's father,Samuel with his parents (and grandfather?): 1871 Ancestry Name: Samuel Rogus (sic) Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Leander Gender: Male Where born: Aldridge, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Norton Canes Ecclesiastical parish: Ogley Hay Town: Norton Canes County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Penkridge Sub-registration district: Cannock ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Household schedule number: 93 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Rogus 46 Occ:Miner Leander Rogus 43 Samuel Rogus 19 Emma Rogus 12 George Rogus 10 Ann Rogus 8 Samuel Rogus 66 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2926; Folio: 50; Page: 16
Samuel PLANT (to follow) and his family "seem" easy enough,but I'd get the PLANT/ROGERS marriage cert to make sure.
Maureen
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11 Oct 2009 15:40 |
1891 Ancestry: Name: Samuel Plant Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Agnes Gender: Male Where born: Newcastle, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Cannock Ecclesiastical parish: Stafford St Luke Town: West Chadsmoor County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Cannock Sub-registration district: Cannock ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Plant 48 Occ: Chimney Sweep Agnes Plant 55 Elizabeth Plant 28 (actually she's married and her last name looks like GAVIN?) Martha Plant 16 William Plant 14 Samuel Plant 8 Enock (sic)Plant 6 Fredrick Plant 12??
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2219; Folio 110; Page 3
The 1881 for the PLANTs(on Family Search or Ancestry is a little easier): Thomas PLANT Head M Male 39 Bradwood, Stafford, England Sweep (Chimney) Agnes PLANT Wife M Female 38 Worth, Northumberland, England Annie PLANT Daur U Female 17 Wheat Acre, Norfolk, England George PLANT Son Male 14 Wheat Acre, Norfolk, England Scholar Thomas PLANT Son Male 12 Wellington, Shropshire, England Scholar Agnes PLANT Daur Female 10 Wellington, Shropshire, England Scholar Martha PLANT Daur Female 6 Ironbridge Scholar Wm. PLANT Son Male 3 Ironbridge Scholar Fredk. PLANT Son Male 1 Cheadle, Stafford, England Joshua NOAKES Boarder M Male 42 Rugeley, Stafford, England Pedler Eliza NOAKES Boarder M Female 33 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Fredk. NOAKES Boarder Male 6 Newcastle, Stafford, England Scholar
Source Information: Dwelling 6 Froghall Census Place Newcastle Under Lyme, Stafford, England Family History Library Film 1341647 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2699 / 84 Page Number 14
And in 1901-it looks to me as though Samuel PLANT is a private in some Regimental Depot in Whittington. Not touching that one-sorry.
Maureen
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11 Oct 2009 15:52 |
Mauren -totally respect your wishes as to 'not touching that one' sorry!
However, is there a reason why this has perhaps'touched a nerve with you' ?
pm me if you wish!
Dea x
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11 Oct 2009 16:04 |
Many thanks for that both.
I will indeed being ordering the marriage cert for Plant/Rogers and Harding/ Burrup in a couple of weeks.
Candis
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11 Oct 2009 16:22 |
LOL! Dea-not touching it because I'm pretty sure I'd "screw it up" somehow. I'm not good at military research.
Best, Maureen
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11 Oct 2009 16:27 |
Maureen - you wouldn't 'screw-up' - We NEED your input please!
I have to go off soon but will be on again tomorrow !!!
Dea x
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