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I suppose it looked better than saying he didnt know

Christine

Lied when he married - not unusual.

Thanks for your help this Edward Riley liked to complicate things


Birth cert no father
Marr cert to Margaret father Charles
Marr cert to Hannah Ebbs father looks like John

Probably because the enumerator couldn't read his own writing when he came to transfer the info from the individual sheets to the census record

1841 for Edward's mother
Spital Hill, Clareborough, East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Jane Riley Female 25 1816 Ireland
Eliza Riley Female 6 1835 Nottinghamshire, England
Mary A Riley Female 5 1836 Nottinghamshire, England
Charles Riley Female 2 1839 Nottinghamshire, England

Have read it carefully now just wonder why Margaret is down as Harriet ?
Thanks Christine

I said in my post that 'Harriet' is Margaret - read it carefully, please

Name: Edward Riley
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 21
Birth Date: 1844
Marriage Date: 30 Jan 1865
Marriage Place: Matlock, Derbyshire, England
Father: Edward Riley
Spouse: Harriett Bunting

Totally different man..........................................

1881
Name: Harriet Riley
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Edward Riley
Gender: Female
Where born: Matlock, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 81 + 83 London Rd
Marital status: Married

Occupation: Plumber Master Employing 2 Men Wife
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4636
Folio: 89
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Riley 36............................born MANCHESTER
Harriet Riley 35
Rosanna Riley 15
Harriet A. Riley 13
Gertrude Riley 8
Edward Riley 4
Dagmar Riley 2

The child shown in 1871

RILEY, HERBERT (MMN) BARKER
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in EAST RETFORD Volume 07B Page 17

Yes that is the Riley tree but I can't find Edward in 1871 married to Margaret

Christine

Name: Edward Riley
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Jane Riley
Gender: Male
Where born: Clarborough, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Clarborough
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Retford
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: East Retford
Sub-registration district: Gringley
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 74
Piece: 2121
Folio: 209
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Riley 43 - born IRELAND
Mary Ann Riley 14
Edward Riley 9
Henry Riley 7

Name: Jane Riley
Registration Year: 1859
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: East Retford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 3
Records on Page:
Name
William Fells
Jane Riley

1861
Name: Jane Fells
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: 1808
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William Fells
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Babworth
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: East Retford
Sub-registration district: East Retford
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Piece: 2416
Folio: 39
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
William Fells 66
Jane Fells 53
Edward Riley 19
Henry Riley 17
Thomas Steels 18
John Cousons 17
Walter Saul 16

1871

Name: Edward Riley
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Harriet Riley
Gender: Male
Where born: Clarborough, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Babworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln
Town: Babworth
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: East Retford
Sub-registration district: East Retford
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 3454
Folio: 65
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Riley 29
Harriet Riley 22
Herbert Riley 1

1881

Name: Edward Riley
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Hannah Riley
Mother: Jane Fells
Gender: Male
Where born: East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: East Retford
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: East Street
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Iron Works Labourer
Registration district: East Retford
Sub registration district: East Retford
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3302
Folio: 87
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Riley 38
Hannah Riley 23 - born DRAKEHOLES
Herbert Riley 11
Mary A. Riley 9
Margaret J. Riley 7
John H.E. Riley 2
Jane Fells 74


No sign of a third wife that I can see

'Harriet' is actually Margaret - look at the birthplace info for her

Name: Maryant Barker
[Margaret Barker]
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Robert Barker
Mother's name: Mary Barker
Gender: Female
Where born: Drakeholes, Nottinghamshire, England ******************
Civil Parish: Everton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: East Retford
Sub-registration district: Gringley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 150
Piece: 2121
Folio: 50
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Barker 30
Mary Barker 28
Robert Barker 7
Maryant Barker 1

This one was illegitimate

RILEY, EDWARD -
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in EAST RETFORD UNION Volume 15 Page 463

From a tree on Ancestry

Birth
December 1841 • Clarborough, Nottinghamshire, England
8 Sources
1841

(AGE)

Residence
1851 • Clarborough, Nottinghamshire, England
Relation to Head of House: Son

1 Source
1851

10

Death of Father Thomas Riley(1804–1860)
1860
1860

19

Residence
1861 • Babworth, Nottinghamshire, England
1 Source
1861

20

Birth of Son Herbert Riley(1869–)
1869 • Ordsall, Nottinghamshire, England
1869

27

Marriage
1869 • East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Margaret Barker
(1849–1874)

1 Source
1869

28

Residence
1871 • Babworth, Nottinghamshire, England
1 Source
1871

30

Birth of Daughter Mary Riley(1872–)
1872 • Nottinghamshire, England
1872

30

Birth of Daughter Margaret Jane Riley(1874–1949)
1874 • Babworth, Nottinghamshire, England
1874

32

Death of Wife Margaret Barker(1849–1874)
1874 • Clarborough, Nottinghamshire, England
1874

33

Birth of Son John H E Riley(1879–)
1879 • Nottinghamshire, England
1879

37

Marriage
1880 • East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Hannah Ebbs
(1859–1904)

1 Source
1880

39

Residence
1881 • East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Head

1 Source
1881

40

Death of Mother Jane Riley(1808–1884)
1884 • Union, Arkansas, USA
1884

43

Birth of Son Albert Edward Riley(1888–1972)
1888 • East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
1888

46

Birth of Son William Henry Riley(1890–)
1890 • Nottinghamshire, England
1890

48

Residence
1891 • East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Relation to Head of House: Head

1 Source
1891

50

Birth of Son George Riley(1894–)
1894 • Clarborough, Nottinghamshire, England
1894

52

Birth of Daughter May Riley(1896–1900)
1896 • East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
1896

54

Birth of Daughter Emily Annie Riley(1900–)
1900 • Clarborough, Nottinghamshire, England
1900

58

Death of Daughter May Riley(1896–1900)
January 1900 • East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
1900

58

Death
1901 • East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
2 Sources
1901

60


Parents
Thomas Riley
1804–1860

Jane Riley
1808–1884

Spouse & Children
Margaret Barker
1849–1874

Herbert Riley
1869–

Mary Riley
1872–

Margaret Jane Riley
1874–1949

Spouse & Children
Hannah Ebbs
1859–1904

John H E Riley
1879–

Albert Edward Riley
1888–1972

William Henry Riley
1890–

George Riley
1894–

May Riley
1896–1900

Emily Annie Riley
1900–

Is this him in 1891?

For location
East Street, East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England

Edward Riley Head Married Male 49 1842 General Labourer Nottinghamshire, England
Hannah Riley Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Nottinghamshire, England
John Hy Riley Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Nottinghamshire, England
Albert Ed Riley Son - Male 2 1889 - East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
William Heny Riley Son - Male 0 1891 - Nottinghamshire, England

Hi All I know its been 10y since I started this thread but thought it better to continue on here rather than start a new one.

I am still trying to sort Edward Riley's wife's
I have 3 poss wife's Harriet Bunting Margaret Barker and Hannah Ebbs
I know Hannah is correct but not sure about the other 2

The above post from Andy says he thinks Margaret married an unknown gentleman but I have the marriage cert for a Margaret Barker and Edward Riley in 1869,

My problem now is did he make this name up as on
Birth Edward no father named
Mar to Hannah looks like John a hawker
Mar to Margaret Charles a traveller

Hope this all makes sense what I want to know is have I got the correct Edward Riley
Thanks Christine

Berenice

If you want Christine to have the info.......send her a PM

You've dug up a five-year-old thread here.................

Thomas Riley was married to Jane Seaman, she became Jane Fells later - 1859? Some of our distant cousins suggest the Rileys weren't married, or Thomas didn't exist.

Confusing stuff!

Hi Andy & David.
Sorry I havent replied before (been away)

This family has got very confusing some one else has Edward with these 3 wives in there tree they sent me this info

I will have to send for some marriage certs

Thanks for your help

Christine

I think you'll find that this is the birth (as aged 2 on 1881 so born before marriage)

John Henry Ebbs
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: East Retford
County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 15


Andy

It looks as if Herbert Mary and Margaret are the children of Harriet
and that John H E is Hannah's child.

Marriages Jun 1880

Ebbs Hannah E. Retford 7b 39
Riley Edward E. Retford 7b 39

Births Jun 1880
RILEY John Henry Mansfield 7b 51
but, why the difference in registration areas?
Mansfield is quite a way from Retford.

David

I think that the confusion has arisen because there is a marraige in East Retford for Edward Riley in 1869 but there are only two names transcribed for the page - Edward Riley and Margaret Barker. I would guess that Edward married Harriet then - her age and the age of son erbert would point to that - and that Margaret married an unknown gentleman. I don't think that the marriage in Bakewell is connected and also the death in Leicester will be a different Harriet as there is a Harriet living in Leicester in 1871 (also married to an Edwrad Riley) of the right age.
I cannot find a death for 'your' Harriet which should take place in east Retford I would have thought.

Andy