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I have a marriage cert. for William Michael Canny and Rebecca Bowers Blake who married at St. Barnabas Church, parish of St. Luke, Middlesex on 16th July 1871. The bride was a minor and her father was Thomas Bowers Blake. I can find no record of Rebecca's birth or the birth and marriage of Thomas; any help will be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike Canny

Have you found William and Rebecca on the 1881 census?

Found this on FreeBMD:

Deaths Jun 1880 (>99%)
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Canny William Michael 35 Holborn 1b 408

Found this on 1881:

Rebecca CAINEY Head W Female 27 Harrow, Middlesex, England
William CAINEY Son Male 6 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Scholar
Charles CAINEY Son Male 1 St Giles, Middlesex, England Scholar
Sarah CAINEY Mother In Law W Female 70 Kilkenny, Ireland
William ASPREY Lodger U Male 36 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Cabinet Maker

There's a tree on Ancestry that has Rebecca Bowers Blake married first to Michael or W. Canny, 2 children from that marriage. He died 1880. She then married John W. Doherty and had 4 more children.

Possible?
1861 census
27 North Portman Mews, Marylebone, London
Thomas Bowers, head, 65, brewer, born Hereford, Wades Mill
Rebecca, wife, 41, born Cambridgeshire
Thomas, son, 24, butcher,born Marylebone
Rebecca, dau, 7, born Marylebone

Ancestry trees. Hmm. To be taken with a rock of salt. There's no Doherty-Canny marriage in the GRO.

I can't see the 1901 at the moment, my sub having expired, but is that Phyllis a daughter-in-law, and the young William (and maybe one or both of the other young children) her child?

Not really relevant, I was just wondering whether it was she who married a Doherty. ;)


Marriages Mar 1897
>> Brown Phyllis Caroline Hendon 3a 246
>> Canny William Ernest Hendon 3a 246
Jackson Harry Hendon 3a 246
LUDGATE Emmie Elizabeth Hendon 3a 246

This is how the 1901 census reads, Janey.
244 Whitehorse Rd., Croydon, Surrey
Rebecca Canny, head, widow, 47
Phyllis, dau, married, 22 (this doesn't make sense, why would she be Canny if she was married?)
Alice, dau, 4 (whose daughter Rebecca or Phyllis?)
William, son, 2
John Doherty, vistor, 17
Reginald Canny, brother, 10 (Not brother of Rebecca, surely? But relationships are supposed to be related to head.)
James Canny, brother, 6

I'd go with the relationships being to Phyllis.

Two kids were her children, and two were her brothers. And Phyllis was daughter-in-law. And the enumerator was getting paid by the name and didn't care. ;)

1891 census
53 Lowfield Rd., St. John, Hampstead, London
John W. Doherty, head, 40, commercial traveller
Alice, wife, 35
John W., son, 7
Reginald A., son, 10 months
*William E. Canny, visitor, 16, oilman's assistant
Al born London except Alice born Harrow.

I agree, fellow Canuck.

And quite possibly Alice should have been recorded as Doherty, but the enumerator *really* didn't care!

Except it does seem she didn't actually marry him. ;)


1891 census:
Reginald A., son, 10 months
John. W., son, 7


Births Jun 1890
Canny Reginald Arthur D St. Giles 1b 600a

Births Dec 1883
CANNY John William D Holborn 1b 783

"And quite possibly Alice should have been recorded as Doherty"

Aargh, I meant Rebecca, in 1901, not Alice.

But who's this Alice living with John Doherty and the pseudo-Doherty Canny boys in 1891??


edit to note -- aha, both Canny boys have third initial "D", i.e. father's surname was given as a middle name (very common).

Marriages Mar 1884
BURT Thomas Poplar 1c 915
Doherty John Poplar 1c 915
Parker Edith Fanny Poplar 1c 915
Vincent Alice Lydia Poplar 1c 915

??

Thanks to all who replied, especially Margaret Manson, Barbara and JaneyCanuck. I'm sure the links you have suggested are the right ones, and will follow them up. And JaneyCanuck, your comments at 18.12 p.m. were spot on - Phyllis (my grandmother) was Rebecca's daughter in law and the rest of that census entry is very dodgy!

Hi guys....3 years later !!....Alice Louise Canny was my grandmother. In the 1901 census her mother Phyllis was living with her mother in law Rebecca with her 2 children Alice and William. My problem is where is Rebecca's son, Phyllis's husband William Ernest Canny ?

By 1911 Phyllis and William are together with their children at 10 Boyton Road Edmonton.. just to make things interesting they have a son Reginald and a son James.....named after their uncles listed in 1901 ??

Hi Lisa, if you want to reach Michael you should click on his name and try to contact him by private message. Over two years later, he may not be looking for replies.

So your question is about this person in the 1891 census:

53 Lowfield Rd., St. John, Hampstead, London
John W. Doherty, head, 40, commercial traveller
Alice, wife, 35
John W., son, 7
Reginald A., son, 10 months
> William E. Canny, visitor, 16, oilman's assistant
All born London except Alice born Harrow

him being Alice's sister? Do you mean, where is he after 1891?

Did you search for his marriage at FreeBMD?

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

There are only two entries for that name -- birth in 1874 and marriage in 1897.

I see where we are. Phyllis in 1901 was William's wife -- nobody ever came out and said so.

Marriages Mar 1897
Brown Phyllis Caroline Hendon 3a 246
CANNY William Ernest Hendon 3a 246

So where is William in 1901, is the question?

Here he is in 1911:

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

CANNY WILLIAM ERNEST 1875 36 Edmonton Middlesex
CANNY PHYLISS CAROLINE 1879 32
CANNY ALICE LOUISE 1897 14
CANNY WILLIAM MICHAEL 1899 12
CANNY VICTORIA NORA 1902 9
CANNY REGINALD ARTHUR 1906 5
CANNY JAMES HENRY 1910 1


He wasn't in the one obvious place, the Anglo-Boer War, at least not as a member of the Imperial Yeomanry:
http://www.britishmedals.us/files/iyc.htm

1911 8 children 2 living 6 died
DOHERTY, John William Head Married M 66 1845 Factor And Agent Warwickshire Birmingham
DOHERTY, Rebecca Wife Married
28 years F 52 1859 Middlesex Harrow
DOHERTY, Reginald Arthur Son Single M 20 1891 Salesman London St Giles W
DOHERTY, James Rancis Joseph Son Single M 16 1895 Salesman Middlesex Hendon N -------should be Francis not Rancis
Address:
30 Leslie Road East Finchley N