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trickytrees

trickytrees Report 12 May 2009 15:26

Trying to find any information on Richard Hall Bate or his family,Richard was born 1884 in Lowton Lancs, and died circa 1980 I have no record of any wife. His parents wher Peter Bate born Kenyon Lans 1859 & Mary Hall born Pennington Leigh, Lancs 1861.
He wa the eldest of 4 brothers and 3 sisters any help on his family would be greatly appricated
Thanks Clive.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 May 2009 15:29

possible connection

Husband's Name
Leon Walter MICKLER (AFN:J7MP-CR) Pedigree

Born: 2 Aug 1896 Place: Ponce De Leon, Holmes, Fl
Died: Place: Mobile, Mobile, Al
Married: 23 Feb 1924 Place: Mobile, Mobile, Al

Father: Thomas Jefferson MICKLER (AFN:J7MP-73) Family
Mother: Jane Elizabeth GIBSON (AFN:J7MP-88)

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Wife's Name
Mary Alice Annie BATES (AFN:J7MP-VC) Pedigree

Born: 17 May 1897 Place: Leigh Ud, Leigh, Lancaster, Eng
Died: 14 May 1987 Place: Mobile, Mobile, Al
Married: 23 Feb 1924 Place: Mobile, Mobile, Al

Father: Alfred BATES (AFN:J7MP-ZV) Family
Mother: Margaret Ellen GREEN (AFN:J7MP-T6)

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Children

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1. Sex Name
U Living (AFN:J7MM-SQ) Pedigree


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2. Sex Name
U Living (AFN:J7MM-V3) Pedigree


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BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 12 May 2009 15:44

Hi Clive,

just for ref;

1901 England Census
about Richard H Bate
Name: Richard H Bate
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Peter Thos
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Kenyon, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Leigh
Ecclesiastical parish: Bedford Leigh St Thomas
Town: Leigh
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Leigh
Sub-registration district: Culcheth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Thos Bate 41
Mary Bate 40
Richard H Bate 16
Thomas Bate 14
James Bate 13
Frank Bate 9
Eliza Bate 8
Ada Bate 5
Maggie Bate 1
John Bate 9 months


Astra

Astra Report 12 May 2009 15:45

Not sure about this

1881
Richard H Bate
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Kenyon, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Westhoughton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
Town: Westhoughton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Horwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Farnnce Ridyard 54
Rachel Ridyard 51
Emma Ridyard 22
Ada Ridyard 18
Richard H Bate 6
John Lythgoe 79
Mary Lythgoe 71

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 12 May 2009 15:46

Hi

From a tree on Ancestry;

His marriage.


1908
Jun Age: 24 Marriage to Marian Jane Berry

Leigh, Lancashire, England
Description: Marriage Cert No.Leigh 8c 429



Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
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BATE Richard Hall Leigh 8c 429 >>>>>>>>>>> just checked the tree......... it was a girl child they had, she married Ronald Bentham (born 1922)

Dee x

Astra

Astra Report 12 May 2009 15:48

Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
BATE Richard Hall Leigh 8c 429
Berry Marian Jane Leigh 8c 429
Berry Mirian Jane Leigh 8c 429
CROOK Ralph Leigh 8c 429
Walker Winifred Esther Leigh 8c 429

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 12 May 2009 15:50

What exactly are you trying to find Clive? past or future?

Do you have the marriage of Peter & Mary as I can't find one with a Mary Hall.

Astra

Astra Report 12 May 2009 15:53

This seems to tie in with the Ridyard family I found
Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%)
>>Bate Peter Leigh 8c 291
BOARDMAN Martha Leigh 8c 291
BUCHANAN Adam Leigh 8c 291
>>Ridyard Mary Leigh 8c 291

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 12 May 2009 15:53

Apparently Mary Halls mother was Harriet Bate born 1833 in Warrington

trickytrees

trickytrees Report 12 May 2009 15:55

Hi Ann
I am trying to find the future realy did he marry and whom. i have looked at the Marion Berry connection and can't find a thing about her.
Clive

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 12 May 2009 15:56

DON'T follow the tree on ancestry - Richard married Winifred Walker not Marion Berry. Marion married Ralph Crook

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1908
BATE Richard Hall
WALKER Winifred Esther
Bedford St. Thomas

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1908
CROOK Ralph BERRY Marian Jane Bedford St. Thomas

trickytrees

trickytrees Report 12 May 2009 16:02

Hi Denise
I am confused Mary Hall married Peter Bates so her mother would not be a Bates ?

Astra

Astra Report 12 May 2009 16:08

Where did you originally get the name Mary Hall from Trickytrees?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 May 2009 16:12

His birth on BVRI:

BATE, Richard Hall Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 16 Nov 1884
Christening Date: 21 Dec 1884 Recorded in: Lowton, Lancashire, England
Father: Peter Thomas BATE
Mother: Mary
Source: FHL Film 1469067 Dates: 1845 - 1886

And his brother:

BATE, Thomas Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 12 Jul 1886
Christening Date: 8 Aug 1886 Recorded in: Lowton, Lancashire, England
Father: Peter Thomas BATE
Mother: Mary
Source: FHL Film 1469067 Dates: 1845 - 1886

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 12 May 2009 16:13

If you are happy with the Richard & Winifred marriage this is a possible child

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Bate Albert Walker Leigh 8c 524

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 May 2009 16:17

His father's birth?

BATE, Peter Thomas Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 8 Jan 1860 Recorded in: Lowton, Lancashire, England
Father: Richard BATE
Mother: Eliza
Source: FHL Film 1469067 Dates: 1845 - 1886

trickytrees

trickytrees Report 12 May 2009 16:17

Hi all I can't remember were Mary Hall appeared from in my tree. Just checked back and there is no reason ecepte Peter Middle name.
Clive

trickytrees

trickytrees Report 12 May 2009 16:23

Thanks everyone what a great resonse, could stop on for hours.But unfotunately got to go, hope to be back online in a couple of hour.So if anything more is found please leave on my board.
Thanks again Clive

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 May 2009 16:23

A mistake many of us make. Don't assume that a child's middle name is mother's maiden name! T'aint necessarily so.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 12 May 2009 16:24

unfortunately Bate is a popular name in Lowton and there are several births which could be children of Richard between 1908 & 1911 before mmn was added to the indices.