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Valerie

Valerie Report 21 Nov 2009 14:41

Can anyone help me find a birth record for Stephen thomas Liddiard born in wiltshire.I can't find him on the 1841 census, but in 1851he is living in london with his wife Margret and is a cow keeper.
Thanks

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Nov 2009 14:43

How old was he in the 1851 and where does he say he was born?

Jill

Andrew

Andrew Report 21 Nov 2009 14:50

1851 gives age as 30 and pplace of birth Wiltshire, no town

Andy

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 21 Nov 2009 15:01

Name: Stephen Liddiard
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: City of London
County: London
Volume: 2
Page: 61 (click to see others on page)


View Image
MARGARET REES

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Nov 2009 15:02

1861 England Census
about Stephen Liddiard
Name: Stephen Liddiard
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: St Luke
Sub-registration district: Old Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 257
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Liddiard 40
Margaret Liddiard 40
Margaret Liddiard 18
Mary A Liddiard 16
Fanny Liddiard 12
Stephen Liddiard 9
Clara Liddiard 7
Alfred Liddiard 5 Mo


STEPHEN LIDDIARD Pedigree
Male Family
Marriages:
Spouse: MARGARET REES Family
Marriage: 10 JUL 1842 Allhallows London Wall, London, London, England




Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Nov 2009 15:02

From Ancestry parish records:

Stephen Liddiard
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Spouse Name: Margaret Rees
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Jul 1842
Parish: All Hallows London Wall
County: London
Borough: City of London
Father Name: Joseph Liddiard
Spouse Father Name: David Rees

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Nov 2009 15:05

From the marriage cert - he is a labourer, his father is a bricklayer, and Margaret's father is a dairyman.

Jill

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Nov 2009 15:06

Both show as "full age" on the marriage cert.

Jill

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 21 Nov 2009 15:07

Name: Stephen Liddiard
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: St Luke
Sub-registration district: Old Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 257
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Liddiard 40
Margaret Liddiard 40
Margaret Liddiard 18
Mary A Liddiard 16
Fanny Liddiard 12
Stephen Liddiard 9
Clara Liddiard 7
Alfred Liddiard 5 Mo


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Original
Record

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Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Nov 2009 15:07

Only a submitted record.


Stephen LIDDIARD Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 31 DEC 1820 Aldbourne, Wiltshire, England


Parents:
Father: Joseph LIDDIARD Family
Mother: Mary DREW

Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Nov 2009 15:08

Ancestry parish records:

Stephen Liddiard
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1820
Christening Date: 31 Dec 1820
Christening Place: Aldbourne, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name: Joseph Liddiard
Mother's Name: Mary

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Nov 2009 15:11

Joseph LIDDIARD Pedigree
Male Family


Birth:
Christening: 27 AUG 1786 Aldbourne, Wiltshire, England

Marriages:
Spouse: Mary DREW Family
Marriage: 18 AUG 1812 Aldbourne, Wiltshire, England

Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.

Andrew

Andrew Report 21 Nov 2009 15:12

Possible for parents and siblings

1841 England Census
about Joseph Liddiard
Name: Joseph Liddiard
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Aldbourn
Hundred: Selkey
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Hungerford
Sub-registration district: Lambourn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Liddiard 50
Mary Liddiard 45
George Liddiard 14
Hannah Liddiard 10
Joseph Liddiard 9
Mary Liddiard 6
Henry Liddiard 2




Andy

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Nov 2009 15:14

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Stephen Liddiard
Name: Stephen Liddiard
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 53
District: Holborn
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 506

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Nov 2009 15:21

MARGARET JANE LIDDIARD Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth: 04 MAY 1843

Christening: 28 MAY 1843 Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, England

Parents:
Father: STEPHEN LIDDIARD Family
Mother: MARGARET

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Nov 2009 15:28

TOM LIDDIARD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male

Birth: 06 NOV 1862

Christening: 20 DEC 1868 Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, England

2. HENRY LIDDIARD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male

Birth: 19 DEC 1854

Christening: 22 APR 1855 Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, England

3. MARGARET JANE LIDDIARD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female

Birth: 04 MAY 1843

Christening: 28 MAY 1843 Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, England

4. STEPHEN LIDDIARD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male

Birth: 13 DEC 1851

Christening: 04 JAN 1852 Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, England

5. CLARA LIDDIARD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female

Birth: 13 NOV 1853

Christening: 22 APR 1855 Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, England

6. ALFRED LIDDIARD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male

Birth: 26 OCT 1860

Christening: 20 DEC 1868 Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, England
8 YEARS AFTER BIRTH AND THE SAME DAY AS TOM

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Nov 2009 15:47

+ Frances 1848:

Margaret Jane Liddiard Baptism 28 May 1843 Stephen Liddiard,
Margaret Liddiard Saint Luke, Old Street Islington
View Record
Mary Ann Liddiard Baptism 18 May 1845 Stephen Liddiard,
Margaret Liddiard St Botolph Aldersgate City of London
View Record
Stephen Liddiard Baptism 4 Jan 1852 Stephen Liddiard,
Margaret Liddiard Saint Luke, Old Street Islington
View Record
Stephen Liddiard Baptism 4 Jan 1852 Stephen Liddiard,
Margaret Liddiard Saint Luke, Old Street Islington
View Record
Clara Liddiard Baptism 22 Apr 1855 Stephen Liddiard,
Margaret Liddiard Saint Luke, Old Street Islington
View Record
Henry Liddiard Baptism 22 Apr 1855 Stephen Liddiard,
Margaret Liddiard Saint Luke, Old Street Islington
View Record
Alfred Liddiard Baptism 20 Dec 1868 Stephen Liddiard,
Margaret Liddiard Saint Luke, Old Street Islington
View Record
Tom Liddiard Baptism 20 Dec 1868 Stephen Liddiard,
Margaret Liddiard Saint Luke, Old Street Islington
View Record
Frances Liddiard Baptism 22 Oct 1848 Stephie Liddiard,
Margaret Liddiard Saint Luke, Old Street Islington

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Nov 2009 16:03

Some details from the originals:

bp - 20 Dec 1868 - Tom (born 6 Nov 1862). Addr is 21 Soward Street, Goswell Road and he is a cow keeper.

bp - as above - Alfred (born 26 Oct 1860)

bp - 22 Oct 1848 - Frances (born 27 Jul). Addr looks like Fan(?) Street, and he is a dairy man.

bp - 22 April 1855 - Henry (born 19 Dec 1854). Addr 21 Soward Street, occ cow keeper.

bp - as above - Clara (born 13/18 Nov 1853) Looks more like 18th.

bp - 4 Jan 1852 - Stephen (born 13 Dec) Soward St, cow keeper.

bp - 18 May 1845 - Mary Ann (born 11 Jan 1845). 3 Hall(?) Street, dairyman.

bp - 28 May 1843 - Margaret Jane (born 4 May) Pitmans Buildings. Labourer.



The address - Fan Street / Hall Street - I'm not sure. Fan Street for Frances looks fairly clear but it looks to me like an H in the address for Mary Ann.

Jill

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 19 Jan 2010 12:34

Sorry
I have only just found this thread.

http://www.treelines.co.uk/OPC/surnameevents032.html
Aldbourne parish records




Joseph LIDDIARD Pedigree
Male Family
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 27 AUG 1786 Aldbourne, Wiltshire, England
Parents:
Father: Thomas LIDDIARD Family
Mother: Mary ELLOWAY



Marriages:
Spouse: Mary DREW Family
Marriage: 18 AUG 1812 Aldbourne, Wiltshire, England
Submitted record


T

18-Aug-1812 M Joseph LIDDIARD of this parish and
Mary DREW of this parish - by Banns
by Thomas PRUEN, Curate; Witnesses: William HATT, Daniel LIDDIARD

BUT

20-Dec-1829 M Joseph LIDDIARD, young man of Ramsbury and
Mary DREW, young woman of this parish - by Banns
by M. WILLIAMS, Minister; Witnesses: Daniel LIDDIARD, Robert TALMAGE

17-Aug-1815 C Thomas LIDDIARD, son of Joseph and Mary LIDDIARD of Aldbourn, Mason

31-Dec-1820 C Stephen LIDDIARD, son of Joseph and Mary LIDDIARD of Aldbourne, Labourer

3-May-1818 C George LIDDIARD, son of Joseph and Mary LIDDIARD of Aldbourne, Labourer


21-Sep-1823 C William LIDDIARD, son of Joseph and Mary LIDDIARD of Aldbourne, Labourer

22-Oct-1826 C George LIDDIARD, son of Joseph and Mary LIDDIARD of Aldbourne, Mason
NOTE MASON NOT LABOURER

11-Oct-1829 C Hannah LIDDIARD, dau of Joseph and Mary LIDDIARD of Aldbourne, Labourer or Mason

5-May-1839 C Henry LIDDIARD, son of Joseph and Mary LIDDIARD of Aldbourne, Labourer



1841 census - household transcription
Person: LIDDIARD, Joseph
Address: West Street, Aldbourne
LIDDIARD, Joseph M 50 1791 Wiltshire VIEW
LIDDIARD, Mary F 45 1796 Wiltshire VIEW
LIDDIARD, George M 14 1827 Wiltshire VIEW
LIDDIARD, Hannah F 10 1831 Wiltshire VIEW
LIDDIARD, Joseph M 9 1832 Wiltshire VIEW
LIDDIARD, Mary F 6 1835 Wiltshire VIEW
LIDDIARD, Henry M 2 1839 Wiltshire


We are probably connected but cannot see the join yet.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 19 Jan 2010 12:37

1851 census - household transcription
Person: LIDDIARD, Joseph
Address: West Street, Ham

LIDDIARD, Mary Wife Married F 58 1793 Ag Lab
Aldbourne
Wiltshire VIEW
LIDDIARD, Joseph Head Married M 65 1786 Ag Lab
Aldbourne
Wiltshire VIEW
LIDDIARD, Henry Son - M 11 1840 Ag Lab
Aldbourne
Wiltshire