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littlelegs

littlelegs Report 13 Jun 2012 15:47

hi derek
thank you so so much for all the info
all the best
lorraine <3

lilliesnan

lilliesnan Report 13 Jun 2012 20:35

Hi Derek

Many thanks for taking the time to look for my wayward family.....Sorry I have set you such a huge task.... :-|

Dont worry about trying to confirm marriage of Nathaniel to Leah in 1841 it is one of the few I have a copy cert for. They were married 31 Oct 1841 at Parish Church Donisthorpe Derby. Nathaniel is aged 28 a bachelor working as a blacksmith, father deceased but no name. Leah Ward is aged 25, a spinster with no profession, (probably too busy!!!) father John Smith a blacksmith.

Thanks for confirming marriage of Leah Ward and John Cashmore in 1816, I did wonder if they ever got around to it. Are there any baptism records for children of Leah and John, especially for Leah born 1816 to determine if John Cashmore was her father, it has been suggested to me by somebody researching the Cashmore family that her father may have been Joseph White..........talk about putting it about !

Am especially interested in the Cashmore / Ward connection as they seem to be very much "free spirits" in more ways than one.

1841 Census shows Elizabeth born about 1796 as head of the household, John Cashmore is not around being transported to Tasmania in 1836. Leah born 1816 is living with her mother along with several Cashmore children. Elizabeth, Luke, Sarah, Maria and William...........Sarah was born 1837 and Maria in 1840..........whose children are they if John was away in Tasmania? Also another child Ann Ward aged 2 in the household....?
This family gets more and more complicated more I look.

Glad to say after my GG grandmother was born the family settled into normality otherwise I would be completely off the rails.

Really appreciate the time and trouble you are taking to help.

Am quite happy to have any info as and when you can find it as its a tall order !!

Susan :-)


Nipsdad

Nipsdad Report 14 Jun 2012 17:09

Hi Derek
I'm also struggling to find the maiden name of James Reaney's wife Amelia (born c.1806). Given both their place of births was Dronfield & they did n't move to Sheffield until around 1830, I'm guessing they probably married in the Dronfield area circa 1825.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Leigh

Sally

Sally Report 14 Jun 2012 18:17

hello derek
remember me
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

<3sally w

Derek

Derek Report 14 Jun 2012 19:43

Hello Sally..what have I forgotten???

Derek

Derek

Derek Report 14 Jun 2012 19:45

Hello Leigh.....I'm struggling to find a Marriage!!!..There is a tree on Ancestry which gives his wife as Amelia Barker..but don't bank on it!

I'm chasing it up.

Derek.

Sally

Sally Report 14 Jun 2012 20:55

hello derek :-D

may i refer you to page 86 aprill

i will forgive you if you can give me an anser or even if you cannot lol

:-D <3 sally w

Derek

Derek Report 14 Jun 2012 22:36

Dear Sally!........to be honest i gave up........However....I have started again,and Lo and Behold!! who's a naughty girl??..You told me "Debdale Leicestershire".
With that sort of information we'll never get anywhere. I know it says something like that on the Census..but then on two later \censuses it changes to "Eyaston" and then to "Ilkeston"
so now we have something that might be the answer.

FRANCIS PARROTT married Elizabeth Bakewell at All saint's derby 23.12.1805.
They had three children

Elizabeth 21.06.1806
HANNAH 07.12.1807
Emily 21.02.1809

By 1820 they were in Ilkeston......

Hannah and Ann are very much interchangeable and it was as Ann PARROTT (Goodall) that she married Thomas Fullwood 12.10.1823

On1871 1881 AND 1891 CENSUSES she is Nancy....
1881 says Debdale leics..but there is no such place
This is a possibility.nothing more

I have no idea where the "Goodall" came from..she was too young in 1825 to have been married previously..i checked just in case.....and i can't explain it..if the name had been the maiden name of someone earlier in the family it would surely have bee Goodall Parrott......

The only other possibility is Nancy Goodall born 1806 Eckington..which \i am now about to follow through......

One thing is for sure is that she never went near Leicestershire!!

I'll be back!!

Derek.

Sally

Sally Report 15 Jun 2012 10:22

hello derek

o i do seam to have given you trouble again

thankyou for trying so hard wry do they put thease porkys on the census i wonder what they were hideing

thankyou for all your help

<3 sally w

Anne

Anne Report 18 Jun 2012 20:18

Hi Derek

I was wondering if you can help me. 22nd October 1848, Thomas Goodwin married Hannah Brookes in Wirksworth, Derbyshire.They are my great great grandparents. Can you give me any information on their parents; if not; tell me where I can find some.

Many thanks

Anne

Derek

Derek Report 18 Jun 2012 23:21

Hello Anne........I have found the marriage of Thomas Goodwin to Hannah Brooks at Wirksworth 22.10.1848.......

The marriage certificate gives both fathers......RALPH GOODWIN and GEORGE BROOKS..one of the witnesses is Elizabeth Brooks....whether that is a mother or a sister i have not yet found.

It also states "both of Wirksworth"..which means they were living in that Parish when they married..not that they were born there...in fact the Wirksworth PR's do not include either birth......

1881 Census shows that Thomas Goodwin actually came from Cheadle..shown as Staffordshire but in reality Cheshire.....

.so this may be a problem..but \I'll sort it!!

Thomas is shown on that same census as born 1811..Hannah born 1826.......old goat!!...

I'll follow this through and get back to you.

Derek.

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 21 Jun 2012 18:14

Dear Derek & Nipsdad - re your query to Derek to find the marriage of James Reaney.

Here are the details:

24th September 1827 in the Parish Church of St. Peter & St. Paul, Sheffield

James Reaney, Bachelor to Amelia Barker, Spinster

Married after Banns by the Vicar, Thomas Sutton

Witnesses John Gilatt ( who signed his own name with this spelling) & Joseph Hudson, who was the Parish Clerk.

This marriage is not on line at the moment, well I suppose it is now, and the fiche record it is listed on is missing, no plans to replace it yet, as it will be put on line eventually when the records are digitalised .

The only way to find and check this record at the moment is by visiting Sheffield Archives and viewing the original register.

Hope this helps you both

Derek

Derek Report 21 Jun 2012 22:13

Kathleen. you are an angel..many thanks for confirming my suggestion.
I have sent a PM to Leigh on you behalf.with credit to you.

Derek.

The Meercat

The Meercat Report 22 Jun 2012 14:40

Hi Derek,

Could you please tell me what your suggestion to Nipsdad/Leigh was about finding the marriage.

I need a marriage and Kathleen says it not online at the moment and I can't get to Sheffield.

Meercat.

Derek

Derek Report 22 Jun 2012 15:43

Hi Meercat..nice to hear from you again..I may have misled you..Kathleen couldn't find the maiden name of Amelia who married James Reaney..and my research suggested it was Amelia Barker....and Kathleen was able to confirm it.....

If you like you can tell me what you're looking for and I'll try and find the info..or you could PM Kathleen and ask her direct.......her message to me is only three slots down..and I'm sure you can PM her by clicking on her name......

any problems give me a shout.

Derek.

The Meercat

The Meercat Report 22 Jun 2012 16:58

Hi Derek,

I must of missed the bit where Kathleen couldn't find the surname.I
only can see your reply about the ancestry tree and Amelia Barker .

I will send Kathleen a pm and hope she can help me.
She seems a bit of a specialist for the Sheffield area.

Thanks Derek and I will give you a shout if I have a problem.

Meercat. ;-)

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 22 Jun 2012 18:02

Hi Derek & Meercat,

Meercat is correct, I didn't have any problems finding the name of James Reaney's bride. My PR CD's cross reference marriage partners, as I'm sure your DYS ones do.

Leigh's comment that his relatives were in Sheffield by 1830 was the bit that triggered me to look in SF for the marriage.

And I also suspected that, as with the Abraham Hudson marriage that you couldn't find back in April, it was on one of the missing fiche.

There are a total of 8 fiche missing covering the years 1824-1828. As I've said up above to Derek & Leigh, there are no current plans to replace them.

The binding on the register for 1824/5 is in a really fragile state, and of course I had to sign the official paperwork to take a photo of the record for Abraham Hudson.

I didn't have my camera with me when I examined the Reaney-Barker record, but Leigh now knows where to find it and could possibly check it again for himself
I have to refute the claim that I'm a specialist in Sheffield, only one line of my family from the area, most of my research is out of SF.

I'm going to be unavailable anyway for a time, so can't promise to help you, Meercat.

And finally could I please advise anybody looking for a marriage on the Derbyshire/Yorkshire borders that they think may have taken place in Sheffield Cathedral church between 1824-1828, don't give up on it. Sheffield Archives do have plans to put their complete records on line.

Will butt out off your thread now Derek.

Nipsdad

Nipsdad Report 27 Jun 2012 17:50

Hi Derek & Kathleen
Thanks for all your assistance. Much appreciated - has made a few pieces of the jigsaw fit together now.
Thanks again.
Leigh :-)

Derek

Derek Report 8 Jul 2012 12:26

Humph!! nobody wants me anymore :-(

Nottsgirl

Nottsgirl Report 8 Jul 2012 15:29

Ahh Derek I'm sure you will always be wanted.

I'm looking for some marriages all I have are GRO index ref:
John Harrison and Emma Atkin 1855 Shardlow dis possable Sandiacre
Helen S Harrison & Peter Scattergood 1884 Shardlow dis
Thomas H Harrison & Annie or Ann Jane Piggin 1889 Shardlow dis
Mary E Harrison & Ebenezer Creed 1893 Shardlow dis,

Joseph Wallis & Frances Smedley Derby Dis 1847.

They all lived in Stapleford Nottinghamshire but not married there.

Thank you

Wendy