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SUTTON, a township, in the parish and union of Prescot (Lewis 1848)
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/source.aspx?pubid=445
In 1/7/1895, Sutton was transferred to the new St Helens RD


Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%)
Edwards Robert Prescot 8b 9_8

Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%)
Fenney William Prescot 8b 998
Roberts Catherine Prescot 8b 998
Roscoe Ellen Prescot 8b 998

I've added a postem to FreeBMD:
Image definitely says 9 8 instead of 998
Robert's marriage (28 Apr 1894 St Nicholas, Sutton) to Catherine Roberts is online at lan-opc.


1901 England Census
Civil parish: St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 44 Brunswick St
Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Household schedule number: 244

Robert Edwards 42 Gln, Cobwyn, [Colwyn, Carnarvon,] Wales Head M Haulage Engine Tender
Catherine Edwards 33 Carnarvonshire Llandnning Wife M
Griffith R Edwards 7 St Helens, Lancashire, England Son
Joseph E Edwards 6 St Helens, Lancashire, England Son
Robert Jno Edwards 3 St Helens, Lancashire, England Son
Edward W Edwards 1 mo [1] St Helens, Lancashire, England Son

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3525; Folio: 163; Page: 48.

I wonder about this one, the marriage in St peter her fathers name was Ric1871 census - household transcription
Person: ROBERTS, Cathrine
Address: Ty Ucha'rfford, Llanddeiniolen

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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
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ROBERTS, Richard Head M 29 1842 Caernarvonshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Elizabeth Wife F 34 1837 Caernarvonshire VIEW
PRICHARD, Griffith Son M 7 1864 Caernarvonshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Cathrine Daughter F 3 1868 Caernarvonshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Mary Daughter F 0 1871 Caernarvonshire VIEW
PRICHARD, Griffith Boarder M 67 1804 Caernarvonshire VIEW
PRICHARD, Jane Servant F 29 1842 Caernarvonshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
5718 Folio:
14 Page:
18

Registration District:
Carnarvon Sub District:
Llanrug Enumeration District:
19 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Llanddeiniolen Municipal Borough:
Address:
Ty Ucha'rfford, Llanddeiniolen County:
Carnarvonshire



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hard and is there not the Griffith name in your family..worth keeping again till you can piece things together. I am away as from tomorrow for a few days so I will look in after theweekend see how you have got on!!

881 census - household transcription
Person: ROBERTS, Catherine
Address: 4, Penllyn, Llanddeiniolen

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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
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ROBERTS, Thomas E Head Married M 44 1837 Quarryman
Llanddeiniolen
Caernarvonshire
Wales VIEW
ROBERTS, Ann Wife Married F 42 1839 Quarryman Wife
Llanddeiniolen
Caernarvonshire
Wales VIEW
ROBERTS, William T Son Single M 21 1860 Quarryman
Llanddeiniolen
Caernarvonshire
Wales VIEW
ROBERTS, Edward T Son Single M 20 1861 Quarryman
Llanddeiniolen
Caernarvonshire
Wales VIEW
ROBERTS, Thomas T Son Single M 17 1864 Quarryman
Llanddeiniolen
Caernarvonshire
Wales VIEW
ROBERTS, Catherine Daughter Single F 14 1867 General Servant
Llanddeiniolen
Caernarvonshire
Wales VIEW
ROBERTS, John T Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Llanddeiniolen
Caernarvonshire
Wales VIEW
ROBERTS, Margaret Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Llanddeiniolen
Caernarvonshire
Wales VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
5567 Folio:
117 Page:
12

Registration District:
Carnarvon Sub District:
Llanrug Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Llanddeiniolen Municipal Borough:
Address:
4, Penllyn, Llanddeiniolen County:
Caernarvonshire


See............another one!! (1881)

dear ann,i didnt know that,ahhh thats a shame, as for the credits,thank you very much all the same
kindest regards
june

Hi june,

The 1871 census is only a suggestion!! for future reference, it may not be her, it is a very common name, but a possibilty as the birth year and birthplace match.

As for the PRIVATE baptism, this would probably be that the child was poorly at birth.......meaning the vicar would have gone to the house to baptise him......just in case the worst happened.

I have a subscription so no credits.....already paid!

Annx

dear ann,god your brilliant,but i feel guilty at you spending your credits,thank you, thank you ,thank you
kindest regards
june xx

dear ann hahahaha,how long would i have been searching if you hadnt have helped me,as for granpa having a private baptism,i knew there had to be money some where hahahah god know what they spent it on,but you have helped me so much ,im going on to look for more but i know sooner or later im going to end up in wales,so maybe asking for help in the near future
kindest regards
june xx

This may be worth hanging on to

1871 census - household transcription
Person: ROBERTS, Catherine
Address: Ebenezer, Llanddeiniolen

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Year Occupation Where Born Original
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ROBERTS, Thomas G Head M 36 1835 Caernarvonshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Ellin Wife F 36 1835 Anglesey VIEW
ROBERTS, Dorothy Daughter F 12 1859 Caernarvonshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Ellin Daughter F 10 1861 Caernarvonshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Thomas T Son M 7 1864 Caernarvonshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Hugh Son M 5 1866 Caernarvonshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Catherine Daughter F 3 1868 Caernarvonshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Owen Son M 1 1870 Caernarvonshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
5717 Folio:
85 Page:
1

Registration District:
Carnarvon Sub District:
Llanrug Enumeration District:
18 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Llanddeiniolen Municipal Borough:
Address:
Ebenezer, Llanddeiniolen County:
Carnarvonshire

Hi june,

I am not too hot on Lancashire records, as you can see you now have actual birth dates and baptism dates for 4 of the children.

For me and my searches the parents usually baptised their children in the church they married (of course unless the parents moved counties)

Below is not the case being St Nicks for marriage and St peter for baps, just noticed your granpa had a private baptism.

PS I live in Wales so dont tell me about all the Jonses edwards Davies etc!! lol

Ann

anne, you are absolutly brilliant,i cannot belive how much help you have given me,i was searching wales and belive me there is a lot of roberts and edwards,thank you ,,thank you ,,
kind regards
june xx

Well June...yes there is always that chance, but above looks like your grandada & siblings.

Annx

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Baptisms: 11 Nov 1897 St Peter, Parr, Lancashire, England
Robert John Edwards - Child of Robert Edwards & Catherine
Born: 4 Nov 1897
Abode: Parr
Occupation: Miner
Notes: Private [Entered out of sequence in the Register]
Baptised by: S. Hankey
Register: Baptisms 1896 – 1908, Page 18, Entry 141
Source: LDS Film 1849649

Baptisms: 29 Dec 1899 St Peter, Parr, Lancashire, England
Edward William Edwards - Child of Robert Edwards & Catherine
Born: 20 Dec 1899
Abode: Parr
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: W. Edmundson
Register: Baptisms 1896 – 1908, Page 50, Entry 393
Source: LDS Film 1849649

Baptisms: 15 Jul 1908 St Peter, Parr, Lancashire, England
Ellen Edwards - Child of Robert Edwards & Catherine
Born: 29 May 1908
Abode: 2 Byram St
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: T W Dearnley
Register: Baptisms 1896 – 1908, Page 192, Entry 1532
Source: LDS Film 1849649

Baptisms: 15 Jul 1908 St Peter, Parr, Lancashire, England
Thomas Edwards - Child of Robert Edwards & Catherine
Born: 29 May 1908
Abode: 2 Byram St
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: T W Dearnley
Register: Baptisms 1896 – 1908, Page 192, Entry 1533
Source: LDS Film 1849649

oh ann that looks promising,could you advise me how to confirm it?
kiind regards
june

is there a chance they didnt marry,and cathrine just took the name edwards
kind regards
june

the 1911 cencus is right as far as the children and the address i didnt know robert had died so young but the birth cert of my grandad robert john edwards,it names his mother as cathrine nee roberts,but i have tried unsucssesfully to try and find where they got married so i can follow the line further
kindest regards
june

How about this one?


Marriage: 28 Apr 1894 St Nicholas, Sutton, Lancashire, England
Robert Edwards - 35 Miner Bachelor of Rolling Mill Lane Sutton
Catherine Roberts - 27 Spinster of 79 Makins Row
Groom's Father: Edward Edwards, Quarryman
Bride's Father: Richard Roberts, Quarryman
Witness: William Daniel Hughes; Lizzie Lewis
Married by Banns by: F.W.E. Chadwick Curate
Register: Marriages 1884 - 1897, Page 171, Entry 341
Source: LDS Film 1657568

Theses are the only 3 marriages i can see on Lancashire BMD for around the time of the first birth.
EDWARDS Robert DALY Catherine Manchester, St. Philip Manchester 93/6/399



Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1897
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
EDWARDS Robert HANNAN Catherine Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester MCR_RM/140/149



Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
EDWARDS

Ann
Because Catherine is listed as widow she has not entered how many years married!

However on the original you can see where she has erased number off children and it it is quite faint but looks like: 6 children born 6living & 0 deaths

oh i thought that was the marriage

this is brilliant i thought they had married in wales,teach me to belive in old relatives,thank you ever so much
kind regards june

1901 For ref.
Name: Robert Edwards
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Gln, Cobwyn, Wales

Civil parish: St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 244
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Edwards 42
Catherine Edwards 33
Griffith R Edwards 7 St.Helens
Joseph E Edwards 6
Robert Jno Edwards 3
Edward W Edwards 1 month


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