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Tony...Your quite correct they did tend to go to the same area when first arriving..you will find "Clusters" all over..understandable if you think about it...

Erinobragh 1916

Thanks for replying , I appreciate your comments on being unable to sign the Marriage Certificate .

The reason I requested who lived in the same premises is I have been trying to find what County John originated from but as yet no joy I believe
that the Irish tended to go to the same Areas were they are known if that makes sense .

I will do a check on Mary Walsh and Dominic Bryan .

Regards

Tony

Tony...I wouldn't worry too much about the X in the signature column for John and Jeffrey....also the spelling of John's surname...
The X only indicates he was unable to write his name..the spelling would be how the PP spelt the name....if John was also unable to read ...(very common) then he would accept what was written by the PP

Tony...Here are the residents of 44 Hughson Street...It had 2 pages and next page shows a John and Mary Darcy and family also at No 44

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Mary WALSH Mother (Head) W Female 44 Ireland
Mary A. WALSH Dau Female 18 Lpool Pupil Teacher
Dominick BRYAN Cousin Male 23 Ireland Bricklayer
John DONOUGHER Lodger Male 27 Ireland Labourer


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Source Information:
Dwelling 44 Hughson Street
Census Place Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341872
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3641 / 91
Page Number 41

Erinobragh 1916

I apologise for the late reply to your message dated 7th June relating to the 1881 census re: John living at 44 Hughson Street as a lodger .

Do you have any details of who also lived at this address.

Regards

Tony

They did get married in Our Lady of Mount Carmel in Toxteth .

BatMans Daughter,

The witnesses to the Mariage were Cathrine Allen , and Jeffrey Sheridan , the mystery continues I notice on his marriage certificate he and his best man don't sign , but place an X in place and his surname is spelt incorrect (Donaghue ) ,also on the 1891 census it states he was born in 1851 ,the 1901 census 1853 and marriage certificate 1856 ,he must be like the queen has a few birthdays .

ScouseMouse

Corrine,

My grand-Dad Dennis was born in 1888, John 1890, Michael 1892 and Patrick 1895 .

Regards

ScouseMouse

BatsMans,Daughter

Your reply to 1891 census is correct .

Regards

ScouseMouse

Tony...The 1881 Census shows Mary's parents Dennis and Margaret living at 54 Hughson St.TP...At No. 44 is John "Donougher" Lodger b Irel. laborer.aged 27yrs..appprox dob.1854.

Tony...As you have the witness' for the marriage I assume you know it took place at Our Lady of Mount Carmel High St.TP.

Hi,I don't have the 1911 census detail's..but, there's a John DONOUGHUE,1855,West Derby,Lancashire..who may fit.

Cass

Possible birth,
John Donoghue, born 11th August 1857,

Father- Patrick
Mother- Ellen McCarthy.
Address- Cornhill, Kerry

So maybe on the 1911 census John gives his birth place as Liverpool? If he likes to swap his birthplace around and also his birth year it isn't going to be easy to trace him back??!!!

Tony... who were the witnesses on John and Mary's marriage certificate?


Dee x

Hi,Just in case you don't have the marriage cert.

John Donaghue to Mary Allen, 1885,Q3,8b,480.

Toxteth Park,Liverpool.

Is this the same family in 1901, with Dennis and Margaret at their Grandparents??

1901 England Census
about John Donoghue
Name: John Donoghue
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 102
Household Members: Name Age
John Donoghue 48
Mary Donoghue 33
John Donoghue 11
Michael Donoghue 9
Patrick Donoghue 6


Dee x

Looks like PollyPoppet and I have the same family, but are they Anthony's?

Anthony, when were your grandad and his brothers born?

EDIT: Looks like Batman's Daughter has found them. Well done.

Your Grandfather with his Grandparents and sister;

1901 England Census
about Denis Donohue
Name: Denis Donohue
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Dennis Allen 60
Margaret Allen 70
Catha Buckworth 42
Marg W Donohue 15
Denis Donohue 13


Dee x

Hi Tony,

Is this the family??

1891 England Census
about John Donoughe
Name: John Donoughe
[John Donoghue]
[John Donoghue]
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Donoughe 40
Mary Donoughe 23
Margaret Donoughe 6
Denice Donoughe 3
John Donoughe 1


Dee x

Hi
1901 census

Address 60 Aberdeen Rd
Civil Parish Lancaster
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet Lancaster
Ecclesiastical Parish Lancaster Christ Church
Parliamentary Borough or Division Lancaster
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Lancaster
Administrative County Lancashire
Householder 1
Name Daisy Donoghue
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 15
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Cotton Weaver
Employment Status
Where Born Lanc Salford
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Edith Donoghue
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 13
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Infant Scholar
Employment Status
Where Born Lanc Blackpool
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Eva Donoghue
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 7
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Infant Scholar
Employment Status
Where Born Lanc Blackpool
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Florence M Donoghue
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 4
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Infant
Employment Status
Where Born Lanc Blackpool
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name John Donoghue
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 44
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Hair Specialist Herbs
Employment Status
Where Born Ireland
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name Mary Donoghue
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 41
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Lanc Eccles
Language
Infirmity
Householder 7
Name Percy Donoghue
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 9
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Infant Scholar
Employment Status
Where Born Lanc Blackpool
Language
Infirmity