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Thank you for your valuable information. You have the correct information I'm sure and your earlier info is definitely right, Arthur was my grandfather and the baby Benjamin, aged 4 months was my father. With help from others I have moved on quite a bit. Regards

Gael, thanks so much for the info. You have got me further along the tree in a instant, I've been mooching about different census for ages on GR. I certainly think you have got me on the right track. Can you tell me what site/sites you visit as I only use G.R., did'nt really know of others I can visit.

Flick, thanks so much for your help, you sound very knowledgeable (wish I was). Your info has given me a new path to take and I will definitely have a go at the new website you've given me. Mary

I think you'll find that's from 1837 - but don't use GR - n

This is the place to go for bmd's from 1837 till about 1940

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

Don't know which person you are addressing Mary - if it's me - I got my info from Ancestry or the LDS site

As Arthur was with his grandparents at the age of 5 - and his father seems to have died in 1862, and his mother clearly re-married to SANKEY, you aren't going to find them together

Have found Arthur on 1911, 1901 & 1891. He was born 15/06/1856 Stafford St, Walsall. I have the birth cert. I just don't seem to be able to find his father, Benjamin Clarke & mother Caroline on a census listed as a family ie. Arthur as part of that family. I found Benjamin on 1851 census aged 21 as part of the family of Benjamin aged 56 & Rebecca aged 56 from Stafford, Birchills. I've probably got the whole thing wrong! Can you tell me if there are other sites I can visit for info. Thanks in advance.

Benjamin Jnr - and siblings

Clark, British Isles
Father: Benjamin , Mother: Rebecca
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C010304

1. GEORGE CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 04 JUL 1824 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

2. HENRY CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 SEP 1826 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

3. REBECCA CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 16 MAR 1828 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

4. BENJAMIN CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 10 FEB 1830 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

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BENJAMIN CLARK
Birth:
Christening: 18 MAY 1794 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England


Parents:
Father: JOHN CLARK
Mother: MARY


Source Information:
Batch No.: C010307 1786 - 1812


The complete Batch - IF it's the right family, of course!

Clark, British Isles
Father: John , Mother: Mary
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C010307

1. ELIZABETH CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 04 AUG 1805 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

2. MARY CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 29 SEP 1811 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

3. FANNY CLARKE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 11 FEB 1798 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

4. SUSANNA CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 DEC 1789 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

5. THOMAS CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 03 JUN 1800 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

6. THOMAS CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 12 JUN 1810 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

7. BENJAMIN CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 MAY 1794 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

8. ROSANNAH CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 DEC 1808 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

9. ANN CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 DEC 1791 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

10. MOSES CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 SEP 1802 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

possible death of Benjamin


Deaths Dec 1862 (>99%)
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Clarke Benjamin Walsall 6b 383

Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
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Clarke Caroline Walsall 6b 923
Sankey Richard Lilwall Walsall 6b 923



1871 England Census
Name: Caroline Sankey
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Richard L
Gender: Female
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Walsall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Walsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Household schedule number: 63
Household Members: Name Age
Richard L Sankey 50
Caroline Sankey 46
Ada J Whittall 20
Arthur F Clark 15
William Clark 13
Frank Clark 10
Ellen Clark 8




Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2964; Folio: 60; Page: 14; GSU roll: 836429.

Could this be Benjamin and Rebecca's marriage. Her Surname spelt two ways.


Groom's Name: Benjamin Clarke
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Bride's Name: Rebecca Barratt
Bride's Birth Date:
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Marriage Date: 27 Jul 1823
Marriage Place: St. Philips, Birmingham, Warwick, England
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01888-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 502186
Reference Number: 172
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973


Groom's Name: Benjamin Clarke
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Rebecca Barrall
Bride's Birth Date:
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Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 27 Jul 1823
Marriage Place: St. Philip'S Cathedral, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Groom's Father's Name:
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02901-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 813728
Reference Number: p172
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Groom's Name: Benjamin Clarke
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Caroline Thomas
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 24 Dec 1855
Marriage Place: St. Philip'S Cathedral, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Groom's Father's Name:
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03070-3
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 814850
Reference Number: 93
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

1851

Name: Benjamin Clarke
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Benjamin
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Male
Where born: Birchills, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Walsall Foreign
Town: Walsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 89
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Clarke 56
Rebecca Clarke 56
George Clarke 27
Benjamin Clarke 21
Rosanna Clarke 18
Elizabeth M Clarke 16
Sabez Brockhurst 18

Have you considered that Benjamin jnr may have died before the 1861 census - thus explaining why Arthur was with his grandparents?

Is this Arthur's father?
Name: Benjamin Clark
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Feb 1830
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MATTHEW,WALSALL,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Benjamin Clark
Father's Birthplace:
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Mother's Name: Rebecca
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01030-4
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 497340
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

1851 England Census
Name: Benjamin Clarke
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Benjamin
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Male
Where born: Birchills, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Walsall Foreign
Town: Walsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 89
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Clarke 56
Rebecca Clarke 56
George Clarke 27
Benjamin Clarke 21
Rosanna Clarke 18
Elizabeth M Clarke 16
Sabez Brockhurst 18




Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2023; Folio: 272; Page: 24; GSU roll: 87428-87429.

Marriage of Benjamin & Caroline

Marriages Dec 1855 (>99%)
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CLARKE Benjamin Birmingham 6d 235
THOMAS Caroline Birmingham 6d 235

is this the one -


1901 England Census
Name: Arthur J Clarke
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Islip
Ecclesiastical parish: Islip St Nicholas
Town: Islip
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Thrapston
Sub-registration district: Thrapston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur J Clarke 45
Jane Clarke 39
Albert Clarke 16
Grace Clarke 10
Ada Clarke 8
Sidney Clarke 6
Walter Clarke 4
Harry Clarke 2
Benjamin B Clarke 4 months




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1452; Folio: 61; Page: 12.

1861 shows Arthur to be the GRANDSON of Benjamin - whose occupation, BTW, was Master Builder.

Which census is Arthur on?
Where was he born?