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from Ancestry trees! Mary jane Collins born 1829 , spouse Thomas Henderson....

Parents William Collins

Thomasin Couch 1793

married 1817 Cornwall ?????

dubious?

three trees on Ancestry all with same info...doesn't look as though any of them have bought Thomas and mary janes marriage cert...other than the details of Thomasin...long way from Cornwall to Hull though...

none of the trees have the 1841...and don't have siblings of mary Jane either!

well the Thomasin CollinGs in Cornwalll died in 1844, is on the 1841...but bears no relation to children so I think that tree is a wild guess.

Well, Mary Jane exists.........
1861 England Census
Mary Jane Henderson Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Thomas gender: Female Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Bishopwearmouth Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: North Bishop Wearmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 160
Thomas Henderson 32
Mary Jane Henderson 31
William Henderson 10
Dorothy Ann Henderson 7
Thomas H Henderson 5
Mary Jane Henderson 3
Thomasine H Henderson 1
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3769; Folio: 19; Page: 32; GSU roll: 543184.

The names are from IGI:
MARY JANE COLLINS
Christening: 01 JUL 1829 Saint Mary, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England Father: WILLIAM COLLINS Mother: THOMASIN C107521

EDWARD SHARPE COLLINS
Christening: 31 JAN 1827 Saint Mary, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England Father: WILLIAM COLLINS Mother: THOMASINE C107521

SARAH ANN COLLINS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 03 DEC 1823 Saint Mary, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England
4. JOHN COLLINS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 MAY 1825 Saint Mary, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England
5. ROBERT COLLINS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 NOV 1831 Saint Mary, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England
6. ELIZA COLLINS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 DEC 1832 Saint Mary, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England

my gg granmother is mary jane collins married to thomas henderson 1829 birth.collins children seem to have lived with other siblings 1851 thomasin lived with john, jane 1851 eliza lived with sarah and children

she certainly does Patricia... the trees have her after her marriage on each census...but not before...

there was no sign of parents in any census

However it looks like nobody has found them in 1841.

It would be nice if you answered that question.

Ozi

where is Thomasine 1834 in 1851 then? I'm not even finding that!

She exists in 1851 too:

1851 England Census
about Mary J Henderson
Name: Mary J Henderson
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Bishopwearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Deptford St Andrew
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: North Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 145
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Henderson 22
Mary J Henderson 21
William C Henderson 11 Mo

I keep asking the same question , but have you got the marriage cert for Mary Jane giving her father and his occupation?

I give up!

Rose, I posted Thomasin 1851 on page 1. As expected, she's mistranscribed.

Ozi

So you did Ozi lol I've lost the plot :)

1851 England Census
about Sarah A Collins
Name: Sarah A Collins
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull Upon Kingston

Civil parish: Bishopwearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 112
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah A Collins 27
William L Collins 3
Sarah A Collins 6 Mo
Eliza Collins 18

'durhamrecordsonline' have a burial record for Thomasina Collins born 1804, died 1834 in Walworth Street, Sunderland.This might explain why she isn't in the 1841 census

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Deaths Jun 1849 (>99%)
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Collins William Sunderland 24 203

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Deaths Sep 1851 (>99%)
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COLLINS William Sunderland 24 198

if that is the right thomasina died 1834 the last child thomasina was born 1834

'durhamrecordsonline' have a marriage record for Edward Sharpe Collins in 1881 in Hutton Henry ( a village in Co Durham) and he married Honor O' Connor
The marriage record from 'durhamrecordonline' will cost you about £1.25p (but the minimum purchase is four records to view at the cost of about a fiver which is a lot cheaper than buying the marriage certificate)
The marriage record will give you the date, the church, the groom's name, his Father's name and possibly the father's occupation
The same information will apply to the bride but at least if you buy this record you get Edward's father's name

how do i get this marr record not very good at finding records