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hi i have a mary ann webb who married joseph mccann may1820 st marys newington middlesex,cant find any children from the marriage only one joseph born 1821

Susan, have you any idea how old they were when they married? And do you know where Joseph 1821 was born?

hi i only know that joseph was born in southwark 1821 he married a mary ann price but no idea there ages

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Marriages Jun 1842 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BRADBURY William Newington 4 336
FOREMAN Martha Elizabeth Newington 4 336
HALLAM Edward Newington 4 336
HEARD Maria Newimgton 4 336
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>McCANN Joseph Newington 4 336
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PRICE Mary Ann Newington 4 336
SMITH Thomas Newington 4 336
SPARKS Sarah Newington 4 336

So who is Mary Ann Webb ?
Was that her maiden name ?

1881

Joseph MC CANN Head M Male 61 London Southwark, London, Middlesex, England Emery Manufacturer
Mary A. MC CANN Wife M Female 59 London Vauxhall, London, Middlesex, England
Louis MC CANN Son U Male 28 London Southwark, London, Middlesex, England Emery Manufacturer (Oth 21/3)
Emily MC CANN Daur U Female 21 Birmingham No Occupation
Alice MC CANN Daur U Female 18 Birmingham No Occupation


Dwelling 50 Hampton St
Census Place Birmingham, Warwick, England

JOSEPH MECAN


Christening: 30 JUL 1819 Saint Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey, London, England

Parents:
Father: JOSEPH MECAN
Mother: MARY

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On the same batch number with parents Joseph and Mary is this ............. possible brother ?

JOHN MECAN
Christening: 09 DEC 1821 Saint Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey, London, England
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Parents:
Father: JOSEPH MECAN
Mother: MARY

Just for info

Name: Mary Ann Webb
Spouse Name: Joseph Mccan
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 22 May 1820
Parish: St Mary, Newington
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark


On the image the surname of Joseph is Mecan


Two baptisms on Ancestry which agrees with the postings by Mike

1851 England Census
Name: Joseph McCann
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann McCann
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: 20 West St

Occupation: Glass Paper maker

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph McCann 31
Mary Ann McCann 29 - Bethnal Green
Joseph J McCann 7 - St Saviours
Henry Walter McCann 1 - Bermondsey
Mary Ann Perrin 26 - visitor; Poplar

Ah, so Mary Ann Webb is Joseph Jnr's mother, and Mary Ann Price is his wife.

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Marriages Sep 1866
McCann Joseph J Birmingham 6d 28

Marriages Sep 1868
McCANN Henry Walter Birmingham 6d 122

thanks for your help very gratefull susan

1861 England Census
Name: Joseph McCann
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary A McCann
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 52 Vittoria St

Occupation: none recorded

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: All Saints
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph McCann 41
Mary A McCann 40
Henry McCann 11
Louis McCann 9
Ann McCann 6
Emily McCann 1
Children born Southwark except for Emily in Birmingham.

1871 England Census
Name: Joseph McCann
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann McCann
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 36 Spring St

Occupation: Manufacturer Employ 4 Boys and one Labourer

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: All Saints
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph McCann 51
Mary Ann McCann 40
Louis McCann 18
Annie McCann 16 - dressmaker
Emily McCann 12 - scholar
Alice McCann 8 - scholar
Mary McCann 2 - grandchild

1891 England Census
Name: Joseph McCann
Age: 71
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary McCann
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark, London, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 291 Bridge St West

Occupation: Glass Paper maker

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph McCann 71
Mary McCann 69
Louis McCann 38 - weightlifter Professional [I think it has Ex on the end] <<<<< interesting
Emily McCann 31 - dressmaker
Alice McCann 28 - dressmaker
Ann Blythe 35 - daughter; widow
Robert Blythe 13 - scholar
Henry Blythe 7 - scholar
Stephen Blythe 6 - scholar

This might be a photo of Louis and his brother Henry, "Hercules and Samson". Scroll down to May 01, 2008.

http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/blog/labels/Oldtime%20Strongmen.html

There's also this about Henry in a history of the Waggon and Horses pub.

The Langley-based brewery installed 51 year-old Henry McCann as manager just before the 1901 census. He was born in Bermondsey, London but had moved to Birmingham when his father found employment in the Jewellery Quarter. He kept the Waggon and Horses with his wife Brummie-born wife Elizabeth. The couple lived here with their eight children - Florence, Louis, Alice, Dorothy, Frederick, Sidney, Lily and George.

from: http://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/adderleystreet.htm

1891 England Census
Name: Henry W Mc Cann
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza Mc Cann
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey, London, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 150 Brearley St

Occupation: Professional Strongman also (Manufacturer of Emery articles)

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
Household Members: Name Age
Henry W Mc Cann 41
Eliza Mc Cann 40
William H Mc Cann 22 - Engineer
Emily E Mc Cann 19
Florence A Mc Cann 17
John O Mc Cann 15 - Engineer
Walter J Mc Cann 13 - Bicycle maker
Louis E Mc Cann 11 - scholar
Alice G Mc Cann 9 - scholar
Dorothy M Mc Cann 7 - scholar
Frederick E Mc Cann 5 - scholar
Sidney A Mc Cann 2




1901 England Census
Name: Henry Mc Cann
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza Mc Cann
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey, London, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 29 Adderley St

Occupation: Manager Public House

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Mc Cann 51
Eliza Mc Cann 50
Florence Mc Cann 27
Louis Mc Cann 21 - Silversmiths M_____ [can't make out the rest of the word]
Alice Mc Cann 19
Dorothy Mc Cann 16
Frederick Mc Cann 14
Sidney Mc Cann 12
Lily Mc Cann 9
George Mc Cann 6



1911:
MCCANN HARRY M 1850 61 Birmingham Warwickshire
MCCANN FREDERICK M 1887 24 Birmingham Warwickshire
MCCANN LILY F 1892 19 Birmingham Warwickshire
MCCANN DOROTHY F 1885 26 Birmingham Warwickshire
MCCANN GEORGE M 1895 16 Birmingham Warwickshire
MCCANN ERIC M 1910 1 Birmingham Warwickshire


Deaths Mar 1922
McCann Henry W 71 Birmingham 6d 442

1901 England Census
Name: Alice Mc Cann
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 10 High St

Occupation: Dressmaker

Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Camden Town
Household Members: Name Age
Emily Mc Cann 41
Alice Mc Cann 38 - dressmaker
Louisa Mc Cann 48 - brother; wid; Professional Athlete; Retired
Nettie Mc Cann 8 - niece; Camden Town
Carrie Mc Cann 7 - niece; Camden Town

Marriages Jun 1891
Cracknell Herbert Henry Pancras 1b 16
Lyons Mary Ann Pancras 1b 16
McCann Louis Elijah Pancras 1b 16 <<<<<
O'Brien Caroline Mary Pancras 1b 16 <<<<<

Births Mar 1893 (Nettie? probably born late 1892)
McCann Ellen Mary Pancras 1b 100

Births Dec 1893 (Carrie?)
McCann Mary Caroline B Pancras 1b 104

Deaths Dec 1893
McCann Caroline Mary A 24 Pancras 1b 91

Deaths Jun 1895 (Dad??)
McCANN Joseph 75 Pancras 1b 58

Deaths Mar 1901 (Mum??)
McCann Mary Ann 77 Pancras 1b 78


1911
MCCANN LOUIS M 1853 58 St Pancras London
MCCANN EMILY F 1860 51 St Pancras London
MCCANN ALICE F 1863 48 St Pancras London
MCCANN ELLEN F 1893 18 St Pancras London
MCCANN CAROLINE F 1894 17 St Pancras London


Deaths Jun 1936
McCann Louis E 83 Edmonton 3a 741