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9 Nov 2010 12:02 |
I'm trying to trace marriage details of my great aunt Sarah Teedon b c 1873 Shoreditch. Father James Teedon (1837) mother Mary. To Henry Muggeridge. Not sure of his bd. They had a son Thomas Muggeridge c 1888. This may well help me date a wedding photo I have.
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9 Nov 2010 12:10 |
Have you looked on freebmd? If your dates are correct, Sarah would only have been 15 when Thomas was born.
Have you found them on any census?
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9 Nov 2010 12:25 |
For ALL BMD lookups from 1837 to approx 1940.........go to
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/
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9 Nov 2010 12:26 |
Any connection? They are banns, so no father's names or ages given
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Sarah Elizabeth Teedon Spouse Name: Francis James Sharp Record Type: Banns Marriage Bann Date: 27 May 1906 Parish: St Mary, Newington County: Surrey Borough: Southwark
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9 Nov 2010 12:27 |
the nearest I can find is this one -
found a Stephens/Kevern birth
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1905 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KEVERN Mary Ann Fulham 1a 461 >>>>>MUGGRIDGE Frederick E J Fulham 1a 461 STEPHENS Frederick James Fulham 1a 461 >>>>>TEEDON Sarah Fulham 1a 461
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9 Nov 2010 12:27 |
1891 census shows you to be 10 years out with Sarah's birth year
Name: Thomas Muggeridge Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Relation: Son Father's name: Henry Muggeridge Mother's name: Sarah Muggeridge Gender: Male Where born: Deptford, London, England Civil Parish: Greenwich Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls Town: Greenwich County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: Greenwich West ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Muggeridge 26 b. Deptford. Sarah Muggeridge 25 Thomas Muggeridge 3
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9 Nov 2010 12:28 |
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MUGGERIDGE, Henry Head Married M 37 1864 General Labourer Deptford London VIEW MUGGERIDGE, Sarah Wife Married F 36 1865 Deptford London VIEW MUGGERIDGE, Thomas Son Single M 14 1887 Errand Boy Deptford London VIEW MUGGERIDGE, Daisy Daughter F 7 1894 Greenwich London VIEW MUGGERIDGE, Albert Son M 2 1899 Hampton Middlesex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 542 Folio: 115 Page: 13 Registration District: Greenwich Sub District: Greenwich East Enumeration District: 22 Ecclesiastical Parish: Christ Church Civil Parish: Greenwich Municipal Borough: Address: 8, Caletock Street, Greenwich County: London
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9 Nov 2010 12:30 |
Deaths Jun 1902 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Muggeridge Sarah 37 Greenwich 1d 579
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9 Nov 2010 12:32 |
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Name: Sarah Muggeridge Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Henry Muggeridge Gender: Female Where born: Diptford, London, England Civil Parish: Greenwich Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: Greenwich East ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 81 Household Members: Name Age Henry Muggeridge 37 Sarah Muggeridge 36 Thomas Muggeridge 14 Daisy Muggeridge 7 Albert Muggeridge 2
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9 Nov 2010 12:33 |
The marriage is also on Ancestry with her name mistranscribed:
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Francis James Sharp Name: Francis James Sharp Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Spouse Name: Sarah Elizabeth Leedon Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 03 Jun 1906 Parish: St Mary, Newington County: Surrey Borough: Southwark Father Name: Henry Robert Sharp Spouse Father Name: John James Leedon
Original says he's a widower, a butcher, 24 Walworth Rd. His father a butcher, deceased. Her address 28 Manor Place, her father a boot maker. Witnesses John james Teedon and J. Geo.? Teedon.
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9 Nov 2010 12:34 |
Searching for Henry Muggeridge - there are a number of entries where there are not enough females on the page.
Think this may be one of those cases, where you need to check the image, and cross reference for Sarah Teesdale in the same year and quarter + district/page and volume
I'm off out!!!
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9 Nov 2010 12:35 |
Sarah Teedon in 1881 -
TEEDON, James Head Married M 44 1837 Boot Maker Greenwich Kent VIEW TEEDON, Mary Daughter Single F 17 1864 Envelope Folder (Mkr) Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW TEEDON, Edward Son Single M 14 1867 Helps His Father Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW TEEDON, Harriett Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW TEEDON, Sarah Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG11 Piece: 430 Folio: 9 Page: 12 Registration District: Bethnal Green Sub District: Town Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Municipal Borough: Address: 15, Thomas St, Bethnal Green County: Middlesex
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9 Nov 2010 12:37 |
Sarah Teedon still unmarried in 1891 -
TEEDON, James Head Married M 54 1837 Boot Maker Greenwich London VIEW TEEDON, Sarah Wife Married F 71 1820 Tunbridge Wells Kent VIEW TEEDON, Harriet Daughter Single F 21 1870 Shoreditch London VIEW TEEDON, Sarah Daughter Single F 18 1873 Servant Shoreditch London VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 253 Folio: 143 Page: 14 Registration District: Shoreditch Sub District: Haggerston Enumeration District: 20 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Stephens Civil Parish: Shoreditch Municipal Borough: Address: 150, Goldsmiths Row, Shoreditch, London County: London
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9 Nov 2010 12:44 |
So Sarah TEEDON did not marry Henry Muggeridge.................
What made you think she did?
Well found, Choccy.....................
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9 Nov 2010 12:53 |
I believe Henry Muggeridge married Sarah Miller:
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Henry Muggeridge Name: Henry Muggeridge Age: Full Age Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Spouse Name: Sarah Elizabeth Miller Spouse Age: 19 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 02 Mar 1885 Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green County: Middlesex Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Robert Muggeridge Spouse Father Name: Thomas William Miller
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MargaretM
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9 Nov 2010 13:03 |
William, do you not have the birth certificate for Thomas born 1888? It would give mother's maiden name. Or have you jumped to conclusions without proof?
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William
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9 Nov 2010 13:33 |
This is a lot to take in and assimilate! But to answer Flick's question I'll explain why I know that Sarah married a Mr Muggeridge. I have a copy of a solicitors letter here addressed to my Dads eldest brother, John James Roe. and dated 18 Mar 1932. It's re Miss Harriet Teeden (deceased) (James Teedon's daughter - John's aunt) and states that 'your aunt, Mrs Sarah Muggridge obtained letters of admin re Harriett's estate etc' Attached is a disbursment Beneficiaries named are Mrs S Muggridge, Mr Edward Teedon, children of the late Mrs Mary Roe (my grand-mother) and children of Mr James Teedon deceased. I realise now I have been spelling out 'Muggeridge, don't know if that alters things?
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9 Nov 2010 13:34 |
This is a lot to take in and assimilate! But to answer Flick's question I'll explain why I know that Sarah married a Mr Muggeridge. I have a copy of a solicitors letter here addressed to my Dads eldest brother, John James Roe. and dated 18 Mar 1932. It's re Miss Harriet Teeden (deceased) (James Teedon's daughter - John's aunt) and states that 'your aunt, Mrs Sarah Muggridge obtained letters of admin re Harriett's estate etc' Attached is a disbursment Beneficiaries named are Mrs S Muggridge, Mr Edward Teedon, children of the late Mrs Mary Roe (my grand-mother) and children of Mr James Teedon deceased. I realise now I have been spelling out 'Muggeridge, don't know if that alters things?
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9 Nov 2010 13:39 |
looks like you have the wrong Mr. Muggeridge -
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941 Name: Harriet Teedon Probate Date: 10 Feb 1932 Death Date: 19 Dec 1931 Death Place: Surrey, England Registry: London Harriet Teedon of 57 Barry Road, East Dulwich, Surrey, spinster, died 19th December 1931. Administration London 10th February to Sarah Muggridge (wife of Frederick James Muggridge) Effects - £200 14s
This proves that Sarah Teedon married Frederick Muggridge
and NOT Henry Muggridge.
This is their marriage, which I have already posted -
Marriages Mar 1905 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MUGGRIDGE Frederick E J Fulham 1a 461 TEEDON Sarah Fulham 1a 461
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9 Nov 2010 13:42 |
So the 1905 marriage posted earlier is the CORRECT one.........................and Thomas etc are not relevant
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