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I can trace back to my great-grandfather but no further.
His name was John Thomas born around 1872 ? he was married to Mary Elizabeth Clarke born 1879. They met at Elan Village, Wales. Elan Village was were all the workers on the reservoir system lived. He later lived in Ingleton where my Grandfather was born. Some of my grandfathers sisters where born at Willington Quay, Northumberland.

When my grandfather George Henry Thomas (born Ingleton 1909) died his ashes were buried in a family grave near Glynneath, South Wales.

Other than this I am struggling, especially with a name like Thomas !! Can anyone help ?

Their marriage certificate would help narrow it down by giving John's father's name.

Does this look like them?
Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
Clarke Mary Elizabeth Rhayader 11b 235
Thomas John Rhayader 11b 235

1901 Ancestry
Name: John Thomas
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary E Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Kerry, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Bradleys Both
Ecclesiastical parish: Cononley with Bradley St John
Town: Bradleys Both
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Skipton
Sub-registration district: Kildwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
John Thomas 29
Mary E Thomas 21
Rosomonia Thomas 1 Month
Rose E Clarke 16
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4029; Folio: 150; Page: 2.

1911 census transcription details for: Uppergate Ingleton Kirkby Lonsdale
RG14PN25718 RG78PN1477 RD484 SD1 ED5 SN68


Reg. District: Settle Sub District: Bentham
Parish: Ingleton Enum. District: 5
Address: Uppergate Ingleton Kirkby Lonsdale
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
THOMAS, John Head Married M 39 1872 Engineerminder Southwales Rervy (I guess this should be Kerry? sp?)
THOMAS, Mary E Wife Married
10 years F 34 1877 Housewife Essex Harwich
THOMAS, Mary Ann Daughter F 8 1903 Yorks Ingleton
THOMAS, Ellen E Daughter F 6 1905 Willington Guay Northumberland
THOMAS, Sarah Jane Daughter F 3 1908 Willington Guay Northumberland
THOMAS, George Henry Son M 1 1910 Yorks Ingleton
BURTON, Harry Boarder Single M 47 1864 Labour Underground Staffordshire Rocester
HAYS, William Boarder Single M 32 1879 Coal Miner Hewer Lanc Padiham
GREY, Evenst Henry Boarder Single M 26 1885 Coal Miner Hewer Northumberland Ashington


Maureen

Maureen,

Thank-you this certainly looks good. I could not work out where 'Rervy' was but does seem likely that it is 'Kerry'.

I can know set off on my searches again.

One of the sad things is that the child Rosomonia Thomas 1 month obviously died, and that Rose E Clarke was my great-grandmothers younger sister probably.

Thanks again for your help.

Rosemarie

Rosemarie, just to confirm that on the 1901 Rose E Clarke is indeed listed as sister in law.

That baby was actually called Rose Omenia


Births Jun 1901 (>99%)

Thomas Rose Omenia Skipton 9a 37


Skipton is the registration district that includes Both Bradleys




sylvia

Sylvia,

thank-you I was just trying to find the baby birth certificate with little success.

Rosemarie

It looks as though she did not die until much later!!


from ancestry:-


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Rose Omenia Lee
Birth Date: 27 Mar 1901
Death Registration Month/Year: 1977
Registration district: Huddersfield
Inferred County: West Yorkshire
Volume: 4
Page: 1683


Marriage from freebmd

Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)

Lee Thomas H Thomas Penistone 9c 625
Thomas Rose O Lee Penistone 9c 625




she must be staying somewhere else on the 1911 Census




sylvia

Rosemarie

could this possibly be her in 1911????



I used the free search .... someone else may be able to find more details



HOUSEHOLD THOMAS ROSE F 1901 10 Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire




sylvia

Sylvia,

The sister-in-law Rose E Clarke was born I believe in Merhyr and not Essex like her sister Mary.
So maybe Rose Omenia could be in Merthyr in 1911 there is a connection.
The fact that Rose Omenia later married to someone in Penistone is very interesting as this town is only a few miles from where my grandfather lived.
Odd that the family never mentioned her. Wonder if she was John and Marys child or whether she was the sister-in-laws Rose E Clarke who was only 16 at the time, but that is just speculation.

Lot more digging required. Quite facinating all this family history.

thanks again.

Rosemarie

Sylvia, is this the 1911 census for Rose?
CLARKE, Henry Head Married M 56 1855 Fitter London
CLARKE, Annie Wife Married
33 years F 54 1857 Gainsbro
THOMAS, Rose Granddaughter Single F 10 1901 Skipton

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
32484 Reference:
RG14PN32484 RG78PN1857 RD590 SD4 ED5 SN59

Registration District:
Merthyr Tydfil Sub District:
Aberdare Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Rhigos

Address:
Bailey Glas Cottage County:
Glamorganshire

Oooh! Well done,Sylvia and Lynne!

Maureen

Sylvia,

Yes that is the record.

It is odd when I first started looking at family history I expected the relatives to have lived in one place for hundreds of years, but my family certainly moved around a lot and each generation married someone from the other side of the UK. My father married a German lady, do you have any hints on research German records.

Rosemarie

Just looked at the nametags of the people who have been helping me, I presume Canada and NY means we are talking across the ocean. I am in the UK and it is currently 01:36 , so I must get some sleep.

Thank-you for all your help , it has opened up lots of avenues for me to research.

Rosemarie

Lynne

that does look like it

I asked for Rose Thomas, b, 1901 +/1 2 years, Yorkshire

and that was the only one that came up


it looks as though she went to stay with her grandparents!

Rosemarie ............... It might be worth getting her birth certificate to see whose child she was ......... and then hope they told the truth!



Thanks Maureen!



sylvia

Another question re my family history.
I believe my grand-father, George Henry Thomas served in WW2 for the Cheshire Regiment, how do I find out any more details.

Hope you can point me in the right direction.

Thank-you