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James

James Report 15 Mar 2011 20:31

Hi Keith, Islandin the rain, has made a good point, why not get in touch with the CHESHIRE FAMILY HISTORY SOCIETY, they may well be able to you. There are a number of "CORBRIDES "recorded.
It may be her married name, perhaps it may have been her last wish to be buried in PORINGLAND,NORFOLK.
It's worth a punt as they say.
Good luck.
Jim

Keith

Keith Report 15 Mar 2011 21:42

hi i thought no family left because of her age .an assumption perhaps i should not have made .children grandchildren possible
i got info (or rather somebody else did and emailed me a copy
it was from offices at Walton crem who have records of all Warrington cemeterys.it states in plot Robert Price ..Alice Price ..William Joseph price
no undertaker info avalible .dates of buriel and container coffin.
Mary Corbridge burial of ashes and her age 100
it also has conversion next to all names apart from William no idea what this is not religious conversion in the cases of Robert and Alice
thanks to all who have given advice
i will try to unravel this .will post answer when i do .i am going to go to local library to see if there is an obituary in local paper for her as in the past i have found info from these
Keith

Island

Island Report 15 Mar 2011 21:55

Hi Keith

I haven't found a birth or marriage for a Mary Cobridge in Norfolk so assume that was her married name?
Also no Cobridges on any census for Norfolk. (FMP)

I have a whimsical notion of a neice taking charge of arrangements as can happen with maiden or long widowed great/aunts.

Keith

Keith Report 15 Mar 2011 22:18

islandintherain
that is a great thought .got the adress from info on details of grave gives her adress as Poringland Norwich Norfolk
i wonder if somebody brought her ashes to Warrington (silly statement i know obviously somebody did)
or i wonder if she married in Warrington then lived there
all puzzles to solve
Keith

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 15 Mar 2011 22:40

Does it say she was born in Norfolk ...or that she lived there?

If she lived there in 1997 maybe she would feature in old electoral lists and you could check who else was at the address.... Might have to go back a few years though, but at 100 she is likely to have perhaps died in a home.....
Just clutching a few straws here........

Gwyn

Family Whispers

Family Whispers Report 16 Mar 2011 00:43

Hi Keith,

I think that I have cracked it.

You say that your gt uncle William Joseph Price, his wife Alice and son Robert are burried in this plot also one Mary Corbridge. (that is what I have read from your posts, and I have gone by the names you have put)



1911 Census Transcription :-

PRICE William Joseph, Head, Married 15 yrs, Age 37, b.1874, Head Teacher, b. Hants Aldreshot

PRICE Alice, Wife, Married, Age 44, b. 1867, b. Lancs Warrington.

>PRICE Mary, Daughter, Age 14, b. 1897, School, b. Lancs Warrington.<

PRICE Robert, Son, Age 12, b. 1899, School, b. Lancs Warrington.

PRICE Alice, Daughter, Age 1, b.1910, b. Lancs Warrington.

BOWDEN Alice, Boarder, Single, Age 32, b. 1879, Assistant, b. London Islington.

Living at :- 8 Stapleton Road, Upper Tooting, London.

Registration District, Wandsworth.
Sub District, Streatham.

3 children born all still living.



ENGLAND & WALES BIRTH INDEX :-

NAME, Mary Price
YEAR, 1896
REG, Q3 (Jul-Aug-Sep)
(This fits in with the birth date on the death certificate 13th Jul 1896)
DISTRICT, Warrington
COUNTY, Cheshire, Lancashire
VOL, 8c
PAGE, 209



ENGLAND & WALES MARRIAGE INDEX :-

NAME, Mary Price. William Corbridge.
SPOUSE SURNAME, Corbridge Price
DATE OF REG, Q2 1922 Q2 1922 (Apr-May-Jun)
REG DISTRICT, Wandsworth Wandsworth
COUNTY, Surrey Surrey
VOL, 1d 1d
PAGE, 1337 1337



ENGLAND & WALES DEATH INDEX :-

NAME, Mary Corbridge
BIRTH DATE, 13 Jul 1896
DEATH REG, Apr 1997
AGE, 100
REG DISTRICT, Norwich
COUNTY, Norfolk
REG NUMBER, A17B
SUB-DISTRICT, 6391A
ENTRY NUMBER, 287

(I put this up again so all the info is in one place)


So if I am correct and not barking up the wrong tree, it looks like Mary is burried with her parents and brother.

LA



rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 Mar 2011 09:07

That looks good LA - and there seems to be 3 children born in Wandsworth to that Corbridge / Price marriage. (son 1923, daughter 1926 and another daughter in 1928).

James

James Report 16 Mar 2011 10:09

Hi Keith. you will have noticed that I enrered the two locations the wrong way round ref: the burial location, but I'm sure you know what I meant.
Put it down to my "AGE",however the principal point is still the same.

There was a Mary Corbridge recorded in Porlingham Norfolk, can't be sure but there may be family connection(not with me) I just live in Norfolk!.

Sorry if I muddied the waters, will pay more attention in future.

Good luck,
James

Keith

Keith Report 16 Mar 2011 10:50

Lady agusta
you are very good at solving puzzles .my William Joseph was a head teacher in aldershot indeed he was born in Aldershot then travelled with his parents his father was in the army .so his siblings were born in different places but Williams father died in Warrington barracks
James thank you i searched Norfolk but could not find her .but she was born in Norwich. Norfolk .
so thank you everybody who has helped me you are very generous with your time and i am gratfull
i was so puzzeled as the only child i knew William had was Robert.
LadyAgusta thank you very much x
regards to all Keith


Family Whispers

Family Whispers Report 16 Mar 2011 11:51

Hi Keith,

Your welcome, I am glad that your puzzle has been solved.

If you would like a copy of the 1911 census pm me with your e-mail and I will send it to you.

LA

James

James Report 16 Mar 2011 11:58

Hi Keith, You are most welcome ,Hope you are able to make more progress.
Just to let you know PORINGLAND is part of NORWICH .

Good luck with your research.
Regards,
James

Braken

Braken Report 16 Mar 2011 14:20

YES They often buried babies and children in the same coffin as a stranger if parents could not affford it, the body was just put in the same coffin and not marked on the headstone

HappyBunny40

HappyBunny40 Report 17 Mar 2011 21:53

Hi , was just reading ur thread , please tell me if I have got this right that after 70 years . The church where my gtgrandfather and gtgrandmother is buried they can use it for someone else ....... I really don't like the thought of that. Please tell me that I'm wrong I'n my assumption

Lynski

Lynski Report 17 Mar 2011 22:00

Whilst doing my research I found that a cemetery had been re-used. All the headstones were put in a section of the churchyard and then the grounds were re-used.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 17 Mar 2011 22:14

Unless a burial plot is purchased then it can be used for other people after a certain length of time (I think the length of time is different for different cemeteries). Not sure if it is the same for churchyards.

Even if you purchase a grave you only own it for so long and then have to pay again to keep the rights to it.

Kath. x

HappyBunny40

HappyBunny40 Report 17 Mar 2011 23:26

Ok so I would have to pay for another 70 years , the reason why I ask is because me and my uncle where talking and he was told after 70 years they could use my gtgrand parents plot for someone else . How would I find out how much to pay for another 70 years kath thanks for reply .

HappyBunny40

HappyBunny40 Report 17 Mar 2011 23:29

Because I thought for a moment my uncle was pulling my leg , silly I no but I really wasn't sure

patchem

patchem Report 18 Mar 2011 06:56

Get in touch with the people who own/run the cemetery for precise details.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Mar 2011 10:52

If the cemetery doesn't have a cemetery office in it (which some have) then contact the local council offices for the area and ask for the cemeteries department. They should be able to tell you when the lease to the grave runs out and how much it will cost to renew.

Kath. x

Island

Island Report 18 Mar 2011 11:09

Hi Happy B

I am in the process of applying to have a current lease transferred and it is more involved than I was initially led to believe.
It may well vary from one council to another so I would be interested to know how you get on.