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Alice H Keene b 1841 Chelsea married Alfred John NORRINGTON in 1876. I have found her in 1901 (married - no sign of husband) with two sons. No sign of her/them in 1881 or 1891.

Can anyone find them? (1911 would help too!!)

Peter

where was she in 1901 please/ where were the sons born, when, and what are their names

1881

Robert E. NORRINGTON Head M Male 44 Newington, Surrey, England Carver & Guilder
Mary NORRINGTON Wife M Female 42 Bishop Stortford, Hertford, England
Alice M. NORRINGTON Daur U Female 18 Newington, Surrey, England Dressmaker
Ernest A. NORRINGTON Son U Male 12 Newington, Surrey, England Scholar
Louisa A. NORRINGTON Daur U Female 15 Newington, Surrey, England At Home (Dom Help)
Alfred J. NORRINGTON Son U Male 11 Newington, Surrey, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 76 Amelia St
Census Place Newington, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341125
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0552 / 50
Page Number 18

ALFRED NORRINGTON Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 03 APR 1851

Christening: 27 JUL 1851 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England
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Parents:
Father: JAMES JOSEPH NORRINGTON Family
Mother: ELIZABETH ANN
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Possible for 1881, mistranscribed

1881 England Census
about Alfred Warrington Name: Alfred Warrington
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice Warrington
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 40 Blundell St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Harness Maker

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 238
Folio: 53
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Warrington 30 Harness Maker
Alice Warrington 34
Alfred Warrington 4
Elenor Warrington 2
James Warrington
Charles Emerson 23

Andy

Sorry Penny - am away from my gedcom at the moment. In 1901 she is somewhere (from memory) in the paddington area. First son is Alfred John b Dec Q1876 in Kensington, second son I think is Herbert b 1886 but has been mistranscribed in 1901

Peter

Andrew - that's them! There is an Eleanor Norrington birth that fits!

Peter

obviously a deaf ennumerator!!!! 1881

Alfred WARRINGTON Head M Male 30 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Harness Maker
Alice WARRINGTON Wife M Female 34 Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Alfred WARRINGTON Son Male 4 Kensington, Middlesex, England
Elenor WARRINGTON Dau Female 2 Kensington, Middlesex, England
James WARRINGTON Son Male 2 m Islington, Middlesex, England
Charles EMERSON Visitor U Male 23 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Harness Maker


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Source Information:
Dwelling 40 Blundell St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341052
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0238 / 53
Page Number 23

1891 - image clearly says Norrington


Name: Eleanor Harrington
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Alice Harrington
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Willesden
County/Island: Middlesex
Sub-registration district: Willesden

Alice Harrington 44 - married, charwoman
Eleanor Harrington 13
Rosina Harrington 7
Herbert Harrington 4


AoGG, the 1881 census you posted right at the outset doesn't relate at all, does it? Maybe you'd delete it so as not to confuse?

Interesting - husband away in both 91 and 01.....

Thanks for help so far

Peter

1891

Name: Alfred Warrington
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, London, England

Civil parish: St George Hanover Square

John Reny 68 - baker - name is Perry
Nelly Jake 25
Isabel Vincent 19
Edith Battell 24
George McDonald 31
Henry Terry 36
Alfred Warrington 40 - married, baker
Tom Prosser 32


Employees seem to have slept on premises (or more likely worked overnight, as bakers) so they weren't necessarily estranged.

Oops.

1881


Name: Alfred Norrington
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Norrington
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Chelsea
County/Island: London
Street Address: 13 Norman St

Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Baker

Alfred Norrington 30
Ellen Norrington 25

Marriages Dec 1885 ?
> NORRINGTON Alfred Chelsea 1a 665
Parnell Thomas William Chelsea 1a 665
Watkins Alice Chelsea 1a 665
> Williams Ellen Elizabeth Chelsea 1a 665


Don't see Ellen in 1891. Perhaps she twigged!

Deaths Sep 1932
Norrington Alfred J 79 Wandsworth 1d 446

Deaths Sep 1916
Norrington Alice H 71 Paddington 1a 38

Deaths Dec 1894
Norrington Ellen Elizabeth 38 Chelsea 1a 251

Aha --

Births Jun 1851
NORRINGTON Alfred Marylebone 1 255

Births Sep 1852
Norrington Alfred John Marylebone 1a 374

So the one I found in 1891 is probably the one married to Ellen in 1881, and not the same as the one married to Alice. ;) Alfred not-J:

Deaths Jun 1918
NORRINGTON Alfred 67 Chelsea 1a 414

The age is a little out,but I wonder:
1891 census transcription details for: London County Asylum, Norwood

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 1022 Folio: 88 Page: 19


Reg. District: Uxbridge Sub District: Hayes
Parish: Norwood Enum. District: 11
Ecclesiastical District: Norwood City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Norwood, North Hyde
County: Middlesex
Disability Where Born
N, A J Patient Married M 38 1853 Harness Maker
Lunatic Paddington
London


Maureen

I'd say yes indeed, that's the best answer there.

1911 poss 5 children born - 4 still alive

NORRINGTON, Alice Wife Married
37 years F 67 1844 Oxford Street VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2 Reference:
RG14PN2 RG78PN1 RD1 SD1 ED2 SN266

Registration District:
Paddington Sub District:
Paddington North Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Paddington

Address:
23 Oliphant Street Paddington





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Marriages Mar 1920 (>99%)
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Boyden Cecil A Glover Paddington 1a 143
Glover Edith M Boyden Paddington 1a 143
Keane John Norrington Paddington 1a 143
Norrington Eleanor E Keane Paddington 1a 143



Can find Herbert in 1911 but not Eleanor



1911
NORRINGTON, Alfred Single M 34 1877 Farrier London Kensington VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29 Reference:
RG14PN29 RG78PN1 RD1 SD1 ED29 SN214

Registration District:
Paddington Sub District:
Paddington North Enumeration District:
29 Parish:
Paddington

Address:
22 Elgin Terrace Maida Vale W

Both of these in 1911 answer to born in Paddington:

NORRINGTON ALFRED 1852 59 Fulham London
NORRINGTON ALFRED 1851 60 Fulham London


Edit - one of them is living with Louisa 1888.

Alfred not-J in 1901 in Fulham has daughter Louisa:

Alfred Norrington 48
Emily Norrington 19
Edith Norrington 15
Louis Norrington 13 (daughter)

Alfred 1852 is living with Louisa in 1911.

So Alfred J is the other one?

In the household with the other one are surnames Walker, Hariss, Butcher, Preece, Bishop, Shrimpton, Lucking -- a boarding house, perhaps.

Maybe marriage for Eleanor

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1920 (>99%)
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Keane John Norrington Paddington 1a 143
Norrington Eleanor E Keane Paddington 1a 143


Andy