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USA Census & New York Passenger Lookup Please

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TracyJames

TracyJames Report 22 Jul 2011 01:27

Hi There

I'm hoping someone may be able to please help with a lookup on the 1920 USA Federal Census for EDWARDS Annie Belinda born c1867 in Newbury Berkshire England.

Also on the New York Passenger Lists 1820-1957 for EDWARDS Ada Mable born c1865 Newbury Berkshire England.

If it's possible could I please get a copy of the orginal emailed to me so I can add it to my tree.

Both these have been given to me as hints on Ancestry but I can't afford to upgrade my current subscription...really appreciate your help :-)

Regards
Tracy (New Zealand)

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 22 Jul 2011 01:47

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Ada Mabel Edwards
Name: Ada Mabel Edwards
Arrival Date: 19 Nov 1905
Birth Year: abt 1865
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/RaceĀ­/Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: St Paul

also Kate Pennicotte Edwards 34 to visit brother Brooklyn New York

Vicci

Vicci Report 22 Jul 2011 02:00

1920 USA this could be her
Annie B Edwards
Home in 1920: Fort Morgan, Morgan, Colorado
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Edwards
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Edwards 73
Annie B Edwards 51
Alva W Edwards 14
Arta Riethman 28
Raymond Riethman 4
[4 8/12]
Blank Robinson 44
Louis Wathen 29
Charles Wathen 22


Vicci

Vicci Report 22 Jul 2011 02:01

1900

Annie B Edwards
Home in 1900: Fort Morgan, Morgan, Colorado
Age: 32
Birth Date: Feb 1868
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 4
Mother: How many children: 4
Spouse's Name: W H Edwards
Marriage year: 1887
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 13
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
W H Edwards 54
Annie B Edwards 32
Grace S Edwards 11
Artie E Edwards 10
Owen E Edwards 6
Viola B Edwards 1

Vicci

Vicci Report 22 Jul 2011 02:07

is edwards Annie' married name?

1881

Annie Belinda Edwards
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Edwards
Mother's name: Ada Alice Edwards
Gender: Female
Where born: Newbury, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Newbury
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 100 Bartholomew St
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Dressmaker Assistant

Registration district: Newbury
Sub-registration district: Newbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1269
Folio: 94
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
William Edwards 53
Ada Alice Edwards 32
Charlie Farr Edwards 20
Percy Spencer Edwards 18
Ada Mable Edwards 15
Annie Belinda Edwards 14
Emily Gray Edwards 13
Katie P. Edwards 10
Henry Aubury Edwards 8
Mary Lizzette Edwards 6

TracyJames

TracyJames Report 22 Jul 2011 03:51

Thaks so much for your info :-)

As far as Annie Belinda EDWARDS goes this is her maiden name and she disappeared from the UK Census after the 1891 census was taken. I thought she had married but receved a hint on Ancestry so thought I'd follow it up.

Ada Mable EDWARDS also disappears from the UK Census after the 1891 census was taken.and haven't been able to find any records for her in the UK until I received the hint on Ancestry.

Is there any way I could find out what the brothers name was that Ada and Kate were visiting in Brooklyn, New York as this may solve another mystery....two of their brothers I've been unable to locate, EDWARDS Harvey A. born c 1875 Newbury, England and EDWARDS Harry Aubrey born c1872 Newbury England so it could be one of them. Two oter brothers emigrated to New Zealand - EDWARDS Charlie Farr and EDWARDS Percival Spencer. The only other sibling I can't find is EDWARDS Emily Gray born c1868 and she also disappeared from the UK Census after the 1901 when she was staying or visiting her brother Harvey.

Hope this helps :-)

TracyJames

TracyJames Report 22 Jul 2011 04:04

PS: Annie Belinda's year of birth is c1867 so I don't think the above records are for her so the hint on Ancestry is probably for another Annie Edwards as this is her maiden name. I did find a marriage for Annie Belinda EDWARDS to a William Richard Moore in 1895 but cannot locate them in the 1901 UK Census so another mystery.

jax

jax Report 22 Jul 2011 05:10

Name: Belinda Annie Edwards
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1895
Registration district: Paddington
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 101 (click to see others on page)

so her name was Belinda?

Name: Belinda Ann Edwards
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1867
Registration district: Newbury
Inferred County: Berkshire, Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 221 (click to see others on page)

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 22 Jul 2011 09:08

Annoyingly it only says brother Mr Edwards 5616 3rd Avenue Brooklynon the manifesto, copy sent.

TracyJames

TracyJames Report 22 Jul 2011 10:32

Hi Jax....She was known by different names in different census records, etc...either Belinda Annie or Annie Belinda and one had Belida Ann.

Hi Lindsey...Is there a census or electoral roll for Brooklyn New York for about the same time (c1905) as Ada and Katie were travelling to visit their brother...name would either be Harvey A Edwards or Harry Aubrey Edwards as I doubt whether Charlie Farr Edwards and Percival Spencer Edwards would have lived there before moving on to New Zealand....although perhaps they may have visited at some stage.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 22 Jul 2011 10:36

I cant see any definite matches yet , Tracy

Vicci

Vicci Report 23 Jul 2011 06:38

Ada in 1901
Ada M Edwards
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Newbury, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Portswood
Ecclesiastical parish: Southampton St Barnabas
Town: Southampton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 130
Piece: 1068
Folio: 131
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Curtis 39
Ada B Curtis 33
Mabel J Curtis 13
Dora E Curtis 8
Hilda M Curtis 5
Ada M Edwards 35
Bessie M Slawson 21

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Jul 2011 12:58

The passenger lists for Ada Mabel & Kate Penicotte Edwards is free to see on the Ellis Island site:

The original says going to brother Mr. Edwards but that name has been crossed out and what looks like IL has been wtitten beside brother (brother-in -law?) Also written is "Moore, discharged to brother IL,

Could it be that they went to visit the sister who was married to a Moore?
The address was 1516 3rd. Avenue, Brooklyn, NY.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Jul 2011 13:14

Could this be your Belinda?

1900 United States Federal Census
about R William Moore Name: R William Moore
[P William Moore]
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
[New York, New York]
Age: 46
Birth Date: May 1854
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1895
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Spouse's Name: Belinda Moore
Marriage year: 1893
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 7
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
R William Moore 46
Belinda Moore 32
W Percival Moore 18

R. William was born May 1854, England, Belinda Dec. 1869, England and son W. Percival Aug. 1897, New York. They emigrated 1895.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Jul 2011 14:27

Same family:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Percival W Moore Name: Percival W Moore
Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 7, New York, New York
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Birthplace: New York
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's name: William R Moore
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's name: Belinda Moore
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William R Moore 62
Belinda Moore 45
Percival W Moore 22



MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Jul 2011 15:23

I see from your other thread that Kate Penicotte Edwards married Edward William Matthews in 1909 in England so it evidently was just a visit to America in 1905.

TracyJames

TracyJames Report 25 Jul 2011 02:56

Firstly...a huge thank you to Lindsay for your extra help and look forward to receiving the copy you mentioned :-)

Also a huge thank you to Margee...YES!! I had a note in my family tree for Belinda Annie Edwards marrying a William Richard MOORE but couldn't find any records to verify this so I'm over the moon to confirm this and know where she ended up emigrating to. Am now going to go to find the Ellis Island website and have snoop. Is it possible for you to please email me copies of the US Census records you found for Belinda Moore and family. Also does the Ellis Island website show when Ada and Katie returned to England or is it only incoming to US?

And last but not least a huge thank you to Vicci and anyone else who've left me messages.

Really appreciate all the help and if you should come across any further info for the names I've mentioned above please feel free to PM me.

Vicci

Vicci Report 25 Jul 2011 03:55

Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)

EDWARDS Katie Pen_icotte Newbury 2c 551
LASHAM John Frederick Newbury 2c 551
**MATHEWS Edward William Newbury 2c 551

1901
EDWARD, Kate Boarder Single F 30 1871 Drapers Assistant
Newbury
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1153 Folio:
25 Page:
41

Registration District:
Reading Sub District:
St Giles Enumeration District:
35 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Lawrence

Civil Parish:
Reading St Lawrence Municipal Borough:
Address:
52to 56, Broad Street, Reading St Lawrence County:
Berkshire

1911
MATTHEWS, Edward William Head Married M 48 1863 Gardener Domestic Surrey Beddington
MATTHEWS, Katie Wife Married F 40 1871 Berks Newbury
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6355 Reference:
RG14PN6355 RG78PN307 RD113 SD1 ED4 SN141

Registration District:
Kingsclere Sub District:
Highclere Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
East Woodhay

Address:
Ball Hill East Woodhay Newbury County:
Hampshire

mgnv

mgnv Report 25 Jul 2011 08:13

You can look up the US census at:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=NORTH_AMERICA

However, there are only images 1850-70, 1900.
There is also a 1905 NY census with images.

Margee's 1920 census is:
http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1197unit#page/n149/mode/1up

Of the ones with no image on FS,1920 is the easiest one to find. Part of the FS lookup is:

Film Number: 1821197
Digital Folder Number: 4313920
Image Number: 00152
Sheet Number: 26

Start at http://www.archive.org/details/1920_census
Go to NY - you might reasonably guess the reel # is encoded in the final digits of the FHL film #
Then try image 152 - they're not there, but look up some name there, and see their
Image Number: 00155
so clearly we need 3 images earlier viz 149 - as appears in the URL

TracyJames

TracyJames Report 25 Jul 2011 09:37

Thanks for the extra info Vicci :-)

And thanks mgnv for the tips on how to do lookups for US info :-)

Have tried to find Belinda and Richard Moore's sons birth registration as the dates for their immigration/marriage and sons birth don't collate.....did a quick search through Family Search but came up blank, is there anywhere else I can try?