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TracyJames
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22 Jul 2011 01:27 |
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Hi There
I'm hoping someone may be able to please help with a lookup on the 1920 USA Federal Census for EDWARDS Annie Belinda born c1867 in Newbury Berkshire England.
Also on the New York Passenger Lists 1820-1957 for EDWARDS Ada Mable born c1865 Newbury Berkshire England.
If it's possible could I please get a copy of the orginal emailed to me so I can add it to my tree.
Both these have been given to me as hints on Ancestry but I can't afford to upgrade my current subscription...really appreciate your help :-)
Regards Tracy (New Zealand)
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Lindsey*
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22 Jul 2011 01:47 |
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New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Ada Mabel Edwards Name: Ada Mabel Edwards Arrival Date: 19 Nov 1905 Birth Year: abt 1865 Age: 40 Gender: Female Ethnicity/RaceĀ/Nationality: English Port of Departure: Southampton, England Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: St Paul
also Kate Pennicotte Edwards 34 to visit brother Brooklyn New York
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Vicci
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22 Jul 2011 02:00 |
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1920 USA this could be her Annie B Edwards Home in 1920: Fort Morgan, Morgan, Colorado Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's Name: William Edwards Father's Birth Place: England Mother's Birth Place: England Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Female Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Edwards 73 Annie B Edwards 51 Alva W Edwards 14 Arta Riethman 28 Raymond Riethman 4 [4 8/12] Blank Robinson 44 Louis Wathen 29 Charles Wathen 22
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Vicci
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22 Jul 2011 02:01 |
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Annie B Edwards Home in 1900: Fort Morgan, Morgan, Colorado Age: 32 Birth Date: Feb 1868 Birthplace: England Race: White Gender: Female Relationship to head-of-house: Wife Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Mother: number of living children: 4 Mother: How many children: 4 Spouse's Name: W H Edwards Marriage year: 1887 Marital Status: Married Years married: 13 Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age W H Edwards 54 Annie B Edwards 32 Grace S Edwards 11 Artie E Edwards 10 Owen E Edwards 6 Viola B Edwards 1
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Vicci
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22 Jul 2011 02:07 |
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is edwards Annie' married name?
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Annie Belinda Edwards Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Edwards Mother's name: Ada Alice Edwards Gender: Female Where born: Newbury, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Newbury County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address: 100 Bartholomew St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Dressmaker Assistant Registration district: Newbury Sub-registration district: Newbury ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1269 Folio: 94 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age William Edwards 53 Ada Alice Edwards 32 Charlie Farr Edwards 20 Percy Spencer Edwards 18 Ada Mable Edwards 15 Annie Belinda Edwards 14 Emily Gray Edwards 13 Katie P. Edwards 10 Henry Aubury Edwards 8 Mary Lizzette Edwards 6
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TracyJames
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22 Jul 2011 03:51 |
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Thaks so much for your info :-)
As far as Annie Belinda EDWARDS goes this is her maiden name and she disappeared from the UK Census after the 1891 census was taken. I thought she had married but receved a hint on Ancestry so thought I'd follow it up.
Ada Mable EDWARDS also disappears from the UK Census after the 1891 census was taken.and haven't been able to find any records for her in the UK until I received the hint on Ancestry.
Is there any way I could find out what the brothers name was that Ada and Kate were visiting in Brooklyn, New York as this may solve another mystery....two of their brothers I've been unable to locate, EDWARDS Harvey A. born c 1875 Newbury, England and EDWARDS Harry Aubrey born c1872 Newbury England so it could be one of them. Two oter brothers emigrated to New Zealand - EDWARDS Charlie Farr and EDWARDS Percival Spencer. The only other sibling I can't find is EDWARDS Emily Gray born c1868 and she also disappeared from the UK Census after the 1901 when she was staying or visiting her brother Harvey.
Hope this helps :-)
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TracyJames
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22 Jul 2011 04:04 |
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PS: Annie Belinda's year of birth is c1867 so I don't think the above records are for her so the hint on Ancestry is probably for another Annie Edwards as this is her maiden name. I did find a marriage for Annie Belinda EDWARDS to a William Richard Moore in 1895 but cannot locate them in the 1901 UK Census so another mystery.
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22 Jul 2011 05:10 |
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Name: Belinda Annie Edwards Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1895 Registration district: Paddington Inferred County: London Volume Number: 1a Page Number: 101 (click to see others on page) so her name was Belinda?
Name: Belinda Ann Edwards Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1867 Registration district: Newbury Inferred County: Berkshire, Hampshire Volume: 2c Page: 221 (click to see others on page)
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Lindsey*
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22 Jul 2011 09:08 |
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Annoyingly it only says brother Mr Edwards 5616 3rd Avenue Brooklynon the manifesto, copy sent.
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TracyJames
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22 Jul 2011 10:32 |
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Hi Jax....She was known by different names in different census records, etc...either Belinda Annie or Annie Belinda and one had Belida Ann.
Hi Lindsey...Is there a census or electoral roll for Brooklyn New York for about the same time (c1905) as Ada and Katie were travelling to visit their brother...name would either be Harvey A Edwards or Harry Aubrey Edwards as I doubt whether Charlie Farr Edwards and Percival Spencer Edwards would have lived there before moving on to New Zealand....although perhaps they may have visited at some stage.
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Lindsey*
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22 Jul 2011 10:36 |
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I cant see any definite matches yet , Tracy
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Vicci
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23 Jul 2011 06:38 |
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Ada in 1901 Ada M Edwards Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Newbury, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Portswood Ecclesiastical parish: Southampton St Barnabas Town: Southampton County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: South Stoneham Sub-registration district: South Stoneham ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 130 Piece: 1068 Folio: 131 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Curtis 39 Ada B Curtis 33 Mabel J Curtis 13 Dora E Curtis 8 Hilda M Curtis 5 Ada M Edwards 35 Bessie M Slawson 21
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MargaretM
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23 Jul 2011 12:58 |
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The passenger lists for Ada Mabel & Kate Penicotte Edwards is free to see on the Ellis Island site:
The original says going to brother Mr. Edwards but that name has been crossed out and what looks like IL has been wtitten beside brother (brother-in -law?) Also written is "Moore, discharged to brother IL,
Could it be that they went to visit the sister who was married to a Moore? The address was 1516 3rd. Avenue, Brooklyn, NY.
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MargaretM
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23 Jul 2011 13:14 |
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Could this be your Belinda?
1900 United States Federal Census about R William Moore Name: R William Moore [P William Moore] Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York [New York, New York] Age: 46 Birth Date: May 1854 Birthplace: England Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1895 Relationship to head-of-house: Head Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Spouse's Name: Belinda Moore Marriage year: 1893 Marital Status: Married Years married: 7 Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age R William Moore 46 Belinda Moore 32 W Percival Moore 18
R. William was born May 1854, England, Belinda Dec. 1869, England and son W. Percival Aug. 1897, New York. They emigrated 1895.
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MargaretM
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23 Jul 2011 14:27 |
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Same family:
1920 United States Federal Census about Percival W Moore Name: Percival W Moore Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 7, New York, New York Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Birthplace: New York Relation to Head of House: Son Father's name: William R Moore Father's Birth Place: England Mother's name: Belinda Moore Mother's Birth Place: England Marital Status: Single Race: White Sex: Male Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William R Moore 62 Belinda Moore 45 Percival W Moore 22
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MargaretM
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23 Jul 2011 15:23 |
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I see from your other thread that Kate Penicotte Edwards married Edward William Matthews in 1909 in England so it evidently was just a visit to America in 1905.
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TracyJames
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25 Jul 2011 02:56 |
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Firstly...a huge thank you to Lindsay for your extra help and look forward to receiving the copy you mentioned :-)
Also a huge thank you to Margee...YES!! I had a note in my family tree for Belinda Annie Edwards marrying a William Richard MOORE but couldn't find any records to verify this so I'm over the moon to confirm this and know where she ended up emigrating to. Am now going to go to find the Ellis Island website and have snoop. Is it possible for you to please email me copies of the US Census records you found for Belinda Moore and family. Also does the Ellis Island website show when Ada and Katie returned to England or is it only incoming to US?
And last but not least a huge thank you to Vicci and anyone else who've left me messages.
Really appreciate all the help and if you should come across any further info for the names I've mentioned above please feel free to PM me.
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Vicci
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25 Jul 2011 03:55 |
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Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
EDWARDS Katie Pen_icotte Newbury 2c 551 LASHAM John Frederick Newbury 2c 551 **MATHEWS Edward William Newbury 2c 551
1901 EDWARD, Kate Boarder Single F 30 1871 Drapers Assistant Newbury RG number: RG13 Piece: 1153 Folio: 25 Page: 41 Registration District: Reading Sub District: St Giles Enumeration District: 35 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Lawrence Civil Parish: Reading St Lawrence Municipal Borough: Address: 52to 56, Broad Street, Reading St Lawrence County: Berkshire
1911 MATTHEWS, Edward William Head Married M 48 1863 Gardener Domestic Surrey Beddington MATTHEWS, Katie Wife Married F 40 1871 Berks Newbury RG number: RG14 Piece: 6355 Reference: RG14PN6355 RG78PN307 RD113 SD1 ED4 SN141 Registration District: Kingsclere Sub District: Highclere Enumeration District: 4 Parish: East Woodhay Address: Ball Hill East Woodhay Newbury County: Hampshire
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mgnv
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25 Jul 2011 08:13 |
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You can look up the US census at: https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=NORTH_AMERICA
However, there are only images 1850-70, 1900. There is also a 1905 NY census with images.
Margee's 1920 census is: http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1197unit#page/n149/mode/1up
Of the ones with no image on FS,1920 is the easiest one to find. Part of the FS lookup is:
Film Number: 1821197 Digital Folder Number: 4313920 Image Number: 00152 Sheet Number: 26
Start at http://www.archive.org/details/1920_census Go to NY - you might reasonably guess the reel # is encoded in the final digits of the FHL film # Then try image 152 - they're not there, but look up some name there, and see their Image Number: 00155 so clearly we need 3 images earlier viz 149 - as appears in the URL
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TracyJames
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25 Jul 2011 09:37 |
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Thanks for the extra info Vicci :-)
And thanks mgnv for the tips on how to do lookups for US info :-)
Have tried to find Belinda and Richard Moore's sons birth registration as the dates for their immigration/marriage and sons birth don't collate.....did a quick search through Family Search but came up blank, is there anywhere else I can try?
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