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Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 23 Oct 2021 16:24

I thought I would let you all no
The latest on William Holloway born Halesowen Worcestershire 1843 married Sarah Pinder born 1859 Laxton

My friend and I went to The Dovecote Inn Laxton Nottinghamshire yesterday (Friday)
To talk to the Landlord re the Family History
But nothing turned up But we did take a photo of the Dovecote In
He was very interested in the Census 1911 to 1861 re Dovecote Inn ( Thankyou for all your effort on these) I had had them printed off
We also went to the local church , but it was locked
So the next thing is , sending for Bertha Holloway Birth Certificate
Then try and find out about Gertrude Alice Fowler born 1884 Lincoln’s
Thankyou once agian
Olive and her friend

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 18 Sep 2021 18:03

Thankyou for that information re Kelly’s Directory
I will ask when I next go into Hucknall Library
From Olive Jean

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Sep 2021 15:31

Not sure if it’s been suggested before, but you could try looking at copies of local Kelly’s Directory - usually accessible in the Public Library, reference section

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 16 Sep 2021 07:55


Thankyou all once agian for all the effort you have put into , the journey of William Holloway born 1843;Halesowen Worcestershire
Olive Jean

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Sep 2021 19:13

Greyghost suggests comparing censuses to see if it's possible to work out which household would be the Dove Cot Inn in 1891.

I tried that several days ago, and can't make even a guess.

In 1901, the Inn is household 41 in Laxton
The Schoolhouse is 21.
George Weatherall and family are at household 36.
John & Mary Cook are household 38.
John Bagshaw and his wife Mary are household 45.

The numbers aren't house numbers as in a street - all the households in the village are numbered from the first to the last (1 to 95, in 1901).

In 1891 there are 83 households in Laxton.
The Schoolhouse is household 25.
John & Mary Cook are household 40.
George Weatherall and family are household 41 (which does NOT mean he's at the Inn),
and John & Mary Bagshaw are 43.


It's impossible to work out from that where the Inn might be.

People in villages often moved around from one house to another in the same village. (And in the same street in a town, for that matter.)

Household 46 in 1891 consists of Thomas Gray, farmer and innkeeper, and his wife Martha and a farm servant Charles Taylor - but their household doesn't have a name, so it MIGHT be the Inn - but we can't say definitely.





greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Sep 2021 17:49

This is William Holloway in 1891. He is in Laxton and recorded as a Publican but the original doesn't show any addresses apart from the such places as the Vicarage and Schoolhouse.

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Westwood, Laxton, Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Holloway Head Married Male 48 1843 Publican Worcestershire, England
Sarah Holloway Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Laxton, Nottinghamshire, England
George Holloway Son Single Male 15 1876 Farm labourer Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
William Holloway Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Newark, Nottinghamshire, England
Arthur Holloway Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Laxton, Nottinghamshire, England
Ernest Holloway Son - Male 2 1889 - Laxton, Nottinghamshire, England
Albert Holloway Son - Male 1 1890 - Laxton, Nottinghamshire, England


You could perhaps put the 1891 census up against the 1881/1901 and see if you can "walk" through the village. Maybe some people will still be living in the same place or the Dovecote came x number of dwellings after the Schoolhouse?

As I suggested originally and EricaH has repeated today - try contacting today's pub landlord and see if he holds any relevant documents.

Pleased to say my 2xGt Grandad's brother was landlord at the Trip to Jerusalem in Nottingham - picked up initially on census. The pub has a list up on the wall of previous landlords and have recently updated it to include years served. The relationship unfortunately didn't earn me a free drink!

The other place to try is the Records Office who had to grant licenses.

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 15 Sep 2021 16:52


That’s what I think to ,
When it’s not your relations you need to be very sure of the facts
Thankyou all
Olive Jean

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Sep 2021 16:46

He could have been at the address between censuses..............so there won't be any census info

I think you need to wait for FULL facts from the paperwork referred to

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 15 Sep 2021 16:40


Thankyou once agian for your replies

William Holloway Marriage 1888

William Holloway age 44 Widower Publican living @Lexington Father Henry Holloway Labourer
Sarah A Pinder age 28 Spinster Servent living @ Newark Father John Pinder Sadler

It’s not very clear
The story goes re The Dove Cote PH Laxton
Bertha Holloway 1894 had paper work of William Holloway Landlord living there
But I am waiting for thier reply

I am not related ,it’s a friend of mine,who comes through Arthur Holloway and Gertrude Fowler
Thankyou for all your help
Like it has been said we need a trip to The Dove Cote PH Laxton Nottinghamshire
From Olive Jean

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Sep 2021 15:01

Why don't you get in touch with the pub and ask if the current landlord knows its history?

NO mention of the Dovecot on 1891 census

You didn't answer the question about William's address when he married..........................

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Sep 2021 14:49

In 1891 the Dove Cote Inn is not named specifically.



1911:

John Thomas Price
in the 1911 England Census
Name: John Thomas Price
Age in 1911: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Conington, Huntingdonshire, England
Civil Parish: Laxton
Country: England
Street Address: Love Cote Inn Laxton
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Farmer & Publican
Registration District Number: 431
Sub-registration District: Kneesall
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 20711
Household Members:
Name Age
John Thomas Price 45
Amelia Price 47
Millicent Price 19
James Wm Price 17
Arthur Pettit 54
Joseph Woodhead 60

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 15 Sep 2021 14:27

Hello agian !
Thankyou for your Census of 1861 1871 and 1901 of the Dove Cote PH
Laxton Nottinghamshire

I have tried to find the Census for 1891 and 1911 but no luck of The Dove Cote PH
But no luck
I wonder if you could look for me please sorry to keep asking you all
Thankyou
Olive Jean



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Sep 2021 16:52

:-S :-S :-S

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Sep 2021 16:46

Olive Jean said that a descendant of Bertha Holloway had "mentioned Dovecote Public House Laxton".

That seems to be the only reason .

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Sep 2021 16:41

There is NO evidence online that he was ever at the pub you mention

Who or what gave you the idea that he was?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Sep 2021 16:36

What was William's address on the 1888 marriage cert?

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 7 Sep 2021 16:22

Hi
I just thought I would say what information I have on William Holloway etc
I have manage to find the Census which you have told me about
Dovecote Ph Laxton
Thankyou for all your help


nameslessone

nameslessone Report 7 Sep 2021 14:35

I can’t post links so have nudged up a couple of Olive’s other Holloway threads.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Sep 2021 13:35

The answer to what, please?

Hasn't ALL available information already been supplied?

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 7 Sep 2021 13:29

Thankyou for your reply

I have the Census for 1891 for William Holloway 1843 Halesowen Worcestershire
Sarah Holloway. 1859 Laxton Nottinghamshire

Also the Marriage for them
The Parish Church Lexington Laxton 1888

William Holloway aged 44 Widower Publican Father Henry Holloway
Sarah Pinder Aged 28: Spinster Servant Father John Pinder

I have had a contact re Bertha Holloway born 1894 Laxton married Frederick Crossland 1896 born Retford
Thier relation through the generation has mentioned Dovecote Public House Laxton

Just to say a big Thankyou to you all re William Holloway 1843 a Publican ??
Waiting to hear the answer !!!