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Judy Mary Gamble (actress Judy Campbell) died 2004

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paul

paul Report 27 Jul 2011 03:17

I have been searching under both names for this lady's birth record on GU and FreeBMD without success. I have her marriage to David Birkin in 1943 and her death in 2004 but cannot find her birth as Judy, Judith, Mary, as a Gamble or Campbell!
She was related to the John A Campbell in my tree. He ran the Theatre Royal in Grantham in 1936 & was a playwright.
Her obituary stated that she was born in Grantham Lincolnshire 31 May 1916 but I have been unable to find the record.
Can anyone assist please?

Vera2010

Vera2010 Report 27 Jul 2011 03:35

????

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Mary Campbell Name: Mary Campbell
Mother's Maiden Surname: Worger
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1916
Registration district: Grantham
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 791 (click to see others on page)

Vera

paul

paul Report 27 Jul 2011 03:47

Obituary states 31 May 1916. Could it be a later registration? I suppose I would need the birth cert. to confirm.

Vera2010

Vera2010 Report 27 Jul 2011 04:01

Paul

I'm pretty sure the parents had 6 weeks after birth to register so it could fit.
Would the birth certificate confirm it for you. Do you have details of her parents?

Vera

paul

paul Report 27 Jul 2011 04:13

The obituary states: 'she was born Judy Gamble, in 1916, into a theatrical family: her mother was briefly a Gaiety Girl and her father, J.A. Campbell, as he styled himself,was an actor-dramatist who for several years successfully ran the Theatre Royal in Grantham. This is where Judy made her début aged 19". John A Campbell is my putative father from 1936! it is possible that Judy is my half sister, 20 years apart.

jax

jax Report 27 Jul 2011 04:13



Judy Campbell was born in Grantham, Lincolnshire on 31 May 1916, daughter of John Arthur Campbell and his wife Mary (Fulton), and was educated at St Michael's Convent in East Grinstead, Sussex.[1] Both her parents were on the stage; her father was also the author of several plays under his professional name of J. A. Campbell.

Vera2010

Vera2010 Report 27 Jul 2011 04:29

Sorry Paul. You did say Gamble.

Vera

paul

paul Report 27 Jul 2011 04:41

Jax, that all fits as per the obituary I quoted, but I have not been able to find the birth record for Judy Campbell. It looks as if you have quoted from another obituary. Can you confirm with an actual record reference please?
The obit. I used is from the'Independent' of Thurs 10 June 2004.

Vera, the obit, says 'born Judy Gamble and father John A Campbell'.
Her subsequent name is Judy Campbell.
Thanks for your ongoing participation in this query.

jax

jax Report 27 Jul 2011 04:45

Wikipedia..... I got that from

just googled her name Judy Campbell actress

jax

jax Report 27 Jul 2011 04:48

How about this it would fit the birth vera gave you

Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
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GAMBLE John Arthur St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 1075
Worger Mary Alice St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 1075

jax

jax Report 27 Jul 2011 04:51

1911 census - household transcription
Person: GAMBLE, Mary Alice
Address: 36 Princess Street Abertillery


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GAMBLE, Mary Alice Wife Married F 31 1880 Actress London VIEW
GAMBLE, Derek Son F 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Lancashire Grantham VIEW
SARGEANT, Annie Boarder Single F 25 1886 Nurse Lancs Manchester VIEW

jax

jax Report 27 Jul 2011 04:58

1911 census - household transcription
Person: GAMBLE, John Arthur
Address: 50a George St Grantham Lincs


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GAMBLE, John Arthur Head Married M 33 1878 Theatrical Proprietor North Runcton Norflk VIEW

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jax

jax Report 27 Jul 2011 05:11

Name: John A Campbell
Birth Date: abt 1878
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1947
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Grantham
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 97

jax

jax Report 27 Jul 2011 05:24

1881 census - household transcription
Person: GAMBLE, John
Address: Manor Farm, North Runcton



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GAMBLE, William Head Married M 37 1844 Farmer Of 400 Acres
Middleton
Norfolk VIEW
GAMBLE, Anna Mary Wife Married F 31 1850
Dereham
Norfolk VIEW
GAMBLE, Gertrude Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
Middleton
Norfolk VIEW
GAMBLE, Sydney Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Middleton
Norfolk VIEW
GAMBLE, Frederic Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Middleton
Norfolk VIEW
GAMBLE, Jessie Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Middleton
Norfolk VIEW
GAMBLE, William Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Nth Runcton
Norfolk VIEW
GAMBLE, Anna Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Nth Runcton
Norfolk VIEW
GAMBLE, John Son Single M 3 1878
Nth Runcton
Norfolk VIEW
GAMBLE, Charles Son Single M 1 1880
Nth Runcton
Norfolk VIEW
GAMBLE, Ruth Daughter Single F 0 1881
Nth Runcton
Norfolk VIEW
BANEY, Agnes Servant Single F 21 1860 Governess (Priv)
Heacham
Norfolk VIEW
DRIVER, Jane Servant Single F 19 1862 Dairymaid (Ag)
Grimston
Norfolk VIEW
BARRETT, Ellen Servant Single F 15 1866 Nursemaid
Middleton
Norfolk VIEW

paul

paul Report 27 Jul 2011 05:24

Vera gives the possible MMN Worger.
Are we now suggesting that Judy was born to Mary Alice Gamble who would be age 36 in 1916, Father still John Campbell, or is John Arthur Gamble actually Campbell. Perhaps 'Gamble' was not a good "theatrical"name!
Also where does the statement that Judy was born to the marriage of Mary (Fulton) & John Campbell fit in?
The plot thickens, that is why I was looking for the registration of Judy's actual birth to confirm who her parents were.

jax

jax Report 27 Jul 2011 05:30

Births Mar 1878 (>99%)
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Gamble John Arthur Freebridge L 4b 332
Gamble John Arthur Freebridge L. 4b 335

jax

jax Report 27 Jul 2011 05:32

That is her birth that Vera gave you

Her father obviously changed his name between 1911 and when she was born in 1916

She was born Mary Campbell and her mothers maiden name was worger

The 1911 census's are for her parents John Arthur Gamble (Campbell) and his wife Mary Alice

I do not know where the name Fulton comes from it was what was quoted on wikipedia

paul

paul Report 27 Jul 2011 05:43

Still looking for Judy Campbell's birth record.
Thanks so far, not sure which of the replies to take.
sorry jax, your reply came through whilst I was typing this

jax

jax Report 27 Jul 2011 05:48

You have her birth record the one that Vera gave you

There is no Judy's or Judiths born at that time that would fit

You can see from the census's they are her parents plus the marriage record I gave you fits....he just changed his name

paul

paul Report 27 Jul 2011 06:09

I'll take that, thanks both of you.