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13 Aug 2011 11:20 |
Her father was a Ralph Heyes from Aspull or Haigh. She married a William Henry and had a child, Robert Henry and Thomas Lucas.
The trouble is there were a few Heyes in Aspull/ Haigh/ New Springs at the time. I am not sure which Ralph Heyes was her father.
There is one Ralph Heyes who was the son of Giles Heyes but there was another ( maybe more people named Ralph Heyes !) Another Ralph Heyes was related to the Broomheads.
Any help again would be appreciated.
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13 Aug 2011 11:21 |
She was Ann Jane Heyes.
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13 Aug 2011 11:24 |
Was she Anne Jane ?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ann Jane Heyes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 20 FEB 1885 Christening: 09 MAR 1885 Wigan, Lancashire, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Ralph Heyes Mother: Ellen
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13 Aug 2011 11:24 |
Marriage for time/place
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Henry William Wigan 8c 105 HEYES Ann Jane Wigan 8c 105
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13 Aug 2011 11:26 |
1901 England Census about Anne Jane Heyes Name: Anne Jane Heyes Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Ralph Heyes Mother's name: Ellen Heyes Gender: Female Where born: Wigan, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Wigan Ecclesiastical parish: Wigan St Catherine County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Wigan ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 172 Piece: 3553 Folio: 90 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Ralph Heyes 45 Ellen Heyes 49 Alice Heyes 22 Elizabeth Heyes 22 Mary E Heyes 20 Anne Jane Heyes 16 Andy
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13 Aug 2011 11:27 |
Do you recognise any of Jane's siblings here ?
Household:1881
Ralph HEYES Head M Male 24 Aspull, Lancashire, England Coal Miner Ellen HEYES Wife M Female 32 Wigan, Lancashire, England Housekeeper Margaret HEYES Step Daur Female 7 Wigan, Lancashire, England Scholar Alice HEYES Daur Female 3 Wigan, Lancashire, England Mary E. HEYES Daur Female 4 m Wigan, Lancashire, England Elizabeth HEYES Daur Female 3 Wigan, Lancashire, England
: Dwelling 9 Stanley Row Census Place Wigan, Lancashire, England
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13 Aug 2011 11:28 |
HEYES Ann Jane Wigan Wigan & Leigh TICKLE WIG/153/386
Her siblings
HEYES Alice Wigan Wigan & Leigh TICKLE WIG/127/472
HEYES Elizabeth Wigan Wigan & Leigh TICKLE WIG/127/473
HEYES Mary Ellen Wigan Wigan & Leigh TICKLE WIG/136/92
HEYES Joseph Wigan Wigan & Leigh TICKLE WIG/145/94
HEYES Ann Jane Wigan Wigan & Leigh TICKLE WIG/153/386
HEYES Emily Wigan Wigan & Leigh TICKLE WIG/162/283
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13 Aug 2011 11:32 |
possible
1901 census Address 2 Kendrick St Civil Parish Wigan Rural District Town or Village or Hamlet Ecclesiastical Parish Wigan St Catherines Parliamentary Borough or Division Wigan County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Wigan Administrative County Lancashire
Householder 1 Name Alice Heyes Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 22 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Cotton Ring Spinner Employment Status Where Born Lanc Wigan Language Infirmity Householder 2 Name Anne Jane Heyes Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 16 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Cotton Reeler Employment Status Where Born Lanc Wigan Language Infirmity
Householder 3 Name Elizabeth Heyes Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 22 Sex Female Profession or Occupation ... Employment Status Where Born Lanc Wigan Language Infirmity Householder 4 Name Ellen Heyes Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 49 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Lanc Wigan Language Infirmity
Householder 5 Name Mary E Heyes Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 20 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Cotton Winder Employment Status Where Born Lanc Wigan Language Infirmity
Householder 6 Name Ralph Heyes Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 45 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Coal Hewer Employment Status Where Born Lanc Aspull Language Infirmity
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13 Aug 2011 11:35 |
Thank you,
This looks like the right family, does anybody have a clue who the father of Ralph is ? The Granfather f Ann and her family ?
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13 Aug 2011 11:35 |
Can't see a likely marriage for Ralph Heyes/ Hayes ... Wondering about this one ...
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1877
HAGUE Ralph - RIGBY Ellen Leigh Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh
Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hague Ralph Leigh 8c 278 Pomfret Ellen Leigh 8c 278 Rigby Ellen Leigh 8c 278 Whittle John Leigh 8c 278
Also looks like Ellen married previously. ( mentions step daughter in 1881)
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13 Aug 2011 11:41 |
Are you sure her father was Ralph. The maiden for the births that I posted is Tickle
Marriages Mar 1876 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bibby James Wigan 8c 112 Carr Ann Wigan 8c 112 HEYES Abraham Wigan 8c 112 <<<<< Tickle Ellen Wigan 8c 112 <<<<<<
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13 Aug 2011 11:42 |
As he puts his birthplace as Aspull. That comes under Wigan.
There are these 2 possibles...
First one might be more likely unless he was beefing up his age in the census, being married to an older woman !
Births Dec 1857 Heyes Ralph - Wigan 8c 15
Births Dec 1858 Heyes Ralph - Wigan 8c 11
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13 Aug 2011 11:43 |
Or even this one ...
Births Mar 1858 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hayes Ralph Wigan 8c 62
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13 Aug 2011 11:45 |
possible for ralph
1871 census Address Whelley Parish Wigan District Wigan, Wigan Administrative County Lancashire
Householder 1 Name Giles Heyes Age 50 Estimated Year of Birth 1821 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 2 Name Margaret Heyes Age 47 Estimated Year of Birth 1824 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire Householder 3 Name Charles Heyes Age 18 Estimated Year of Birth 1853 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire Householder 4 Name Ralph Heyes Age 14 Estimated Year of Birth 1857 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 5 Name James Heyes Age 12 Estimated Year of Birth 1859 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire Householder 6 Name Robert Heyes Age 9 Estimated Year of Birth 1862 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 7 Name Mary Heyes Age 7 Estimated Year of Birth 1864 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
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13 Aug 2011 11:53 |
Hi PollyPoppet,
I am thinking that Giles is Ralphs father as in the 1871 census, I just wasn't 100 % sure that I had the right father as there were a few Heyes and more than one Ralph but I am 80% that Giles was his dad and that Giles is Ann Heyes, Grandad ?
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13 Aug 2011 11:56 |
The first thing you need is Ann Jane's birth certificate to make sure you are following the correct parents.
Births Mar 1885 Heyes Ann Jane - Wigan 8c 70
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13 Aug 2011 11:57 |
Im wondering if Ralph and Abraham are the same person as I cant see Abraham with an Ellen and all the children I listed on the censues
Anyone else got any ideas or can spot Abraham and Ellen, I might be missing something
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13 Aug 2011 12:08 |
Margaret Heyes born 1874 is down as stepdaughter for Ralph
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874 TICKLE Margaret - Wigan Wigan & Leigh TICKLE
So maybe Ellen wasn't married previously if this is Margaret's birth as Tickle.
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13 Aug 2011 12:44 |
1861 census Address Broom Street Parish Ince In Makerfield District Wigan, Pemberton Administrative County Lancashire
Householder 1 Name Giles Heyes Age 42 Estimated Year of Birth 1819 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Coal Miner Birth Place Aspull Birth County Lancashire
Householder 2 Name Mary Heyes Age 40 Estimated Year of Birth 1821 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Aspull Birth County Lancashire
Householder 3 Name Eliza Heyes Age 18 Estimated Year of Birth 1843 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Colliery Labourer Birth Place Aspull Birth County Lancashire
Householder 4 Name Henry Heyes Age 12 Estimated Year of Birth 1849 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Colliery Labourer Birth Place Aspull Lancashire, Wales Birth County Lancashire
Householder 5 Name Margt Heyes Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1846 Relationship to Head of Household Scholar Occupation Colliery Labourer Birth Place Aspull Birth County Lancashire
Householder 6 Name Giles Heyes Age 7 Estimated Year of Birth 1854 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Aspull Lancashire, Wales Birth County Lancashire
Householder 7 Name James Heyes Age 3 Estimated Year of Birth 1858 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Aspull Lancashire, Wales Birth County Lancashire
Householder 8 Name Ralph Heyes Age 1 Estimated Year of Birth 1860 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Aspull Lancashire, Wales Birth County Lancashire
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13 Aug 2011 12:55 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Abraham Heyes Name: Abraham Heyes Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1851 Registration district: Wigan Inferred County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 21 Page: 918 And then after this census 'Abraham' disapears. Maybe this is when he becomes Ralph
1861 England Census about Abraham Heys Name: Abraham Heys Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Son Father's name: Isreal Heys Mother's name: Sarah Heys Gender: Male Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Ashton in Makerfield St Thomas County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Ashton in Mackerfield ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 93 Piece: 2786 Folio: 94 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Isreal Heys 52 Sarah Heys 44 Sarah Ann Heys 18 John Heys 16 Charles Heys 12 Abraham Heys 10 William Heys 6 Margaret Heys 3 Frances Hornby 21 James Hornby 20
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