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Please will someone with access to out-going shipping records check for 2 people surname ROONEY travelling on a ship from Liverpool?

I have been told 2 females went to America and would like to know if they were on the same ship please.
A free search suggests there was a Thos. and an Ellen.

Did the ship call into Ireland?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Gwyn

If it is only 1907 from Liverpool that you are looking for then this is the only Thomas Rooney that comes up on Findmypast:-

Name: Thos ROONEY
Date of departure: 9 October 1907
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Boston, USA
Passenger destination: Boston, USA

Date of Birth: 1867 (calculated from age)
Age: 40
Marital status:
Sex: Not specified
Occupation: Lab
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 18


The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

John ROONEY Page 9 of 18
Michael J ROONEY Page 1 of 18
Peter ROONEY Page 1 of 18


Ship: REPUBLIC
Official Number:
Master's name:Jas Mcauley
Steamship Line:
Where bound:Boston, USA
Square feet: 22485
Registered tonnage:15378
Passengers on voyage: 735


Kath. x

This is Ellen on a different ship:-

Name: Ellen ROONEY
Date of departure: 25 July 1907
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1867 (calculated from age)
Age: 40
Marital status: Married
Sex: Female
Occupation: Wife
Passenger recorded on: Page 10 of 28


The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Lara ROONEY Page 10 of 28


Ship: BALTIC
Official Number:
Master's name: J B Ranson
Steamship Line:
Where bound: New York, USA
Square feet:31237
Registered tonnage:23876
Passengers on voyage:1239

Kath. x

Thank you Kath...

Hearsay is that 2 Irishborn ROONEY sisters went to America "never to be heard of again"
I'm trying to search for possibles for females we cannot yet track.

I was hoping Thos. might be Tomosina ( unsure spelling) who was born in Co.Cork in 1868.

I also can't account for what happened to her sister Henrietta b. 1870.

In 1911 census, their mother says she has 9 children, all living. We only know of 8, so there is another child to find in this family yet and we wondered if the 9th one could have been one of the mystery sisters.

Dates and destination are unknown, but OH ( it's his side ) found Ellen and Thos when he searched for female ROONEYs travelling to USA.

Thank you for helping.

Gwyn

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New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Tomasina Rooney
Arrival Date: 30 Sep 1887
Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 19
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Irish
Place of Origin: Ireland
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Britannic
Search Ship Database: Search the Britannic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database



Source Citation: Year: 1887; Arrival: New York , United States; Microfilm Serial: M237; Microfilm Roll: M237_512; Line: 39; List Number: 1266; .

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Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943

Name: Henrietta Rooney
Arrival Date: 4 Oct 1896
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Ship Name: Lemia
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Last Residence: Ireland



Source Citation: National Archives and Records Administration (NARA); Washington, D.C.; Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at Boston, Massachusetts, 1917-1943; Microfilm Serial: T938; Microfilm Roll: 22.

Choccy
Thank you indeed.
That looks very promising and could quite possibly be the missing sisters.

Would it be possible to see the 2 images of the manifest please?

Gwyn

do you want to let me have your e-mail address, and I can send the images to you

Thank you.

pm sent.

Gwyn

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Massachusetts Marriages, 1841-1915
name: John B. Henshaw
titles & terms:
event: Marriage
event date: 11 Jun 1902
event place: Salem, Massachusetts
gender: Male
age: 28
marital status:
race:
birth date:
birthplace: Nova Scotia
marriage registration year:
marriage registration place:
estimated birth year: 1874
father: John E. Henshaw
father's titles & terms:
mother: Jemima Caute
mother's titles & terms:
spouse: Henrietta R. Rooney
spouse's titles & terms:
spouse's race:
spouse's marital status:
spouse's father: Henry Rooney
spouse's father's titles & terms:
spouse's mother: Sarah J. Maude
spouse's mother's titles & terms:
record number: 375
film number: 2057535
digital folder number: 4332427
image number: 00721
number of images:


Maureen
(from the new Family Search)

Maureen
Thank you... That looks a really good lead, as Henrietta's father was Henry !

I will pass the information on to my husband, who has been burning the midnight oil this last week tracking this family after he got a small lead and one thing led to another.

Gwyn

Possible?

1920 United States Federal Census
about Henrietta Henshaw Name: Henrietta Henshaw
Home in 1920: Salem Ward 6, Essex, Massachusetts
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Ireland
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: John B Henshaw
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's Birth Place: Ireland
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of immigration: 1886
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John B Henshaw 45
Henrietta Henshaw 46
Lloyd Henshaw 10

Hmmm...on the 1910 census there's a Henry J Rooney age 36 listed right before the Henshaws,so maybe not the right Henrietta then.??

Maureen

Edit: Or maybe it is-going by the Old Family search she does seem to have a brother Henry James!!!

Maureen
Yes, yes ! .... I have just come back upstairs after telling OH of your previous find...and now there's more.
This is absolutely great. Husband is delighted, thank you.

I only had a quick look at the marriage outline and didn't notice the bride's mother's details.
She was indeed Sarah Jane, so that all looks really good.

We don't have any further information on Henry James, so it looks very much as if you found him too.

Many thanks.

Gwyn

Margee...... So sorry.
It was YOUR find of the census..... It's getting too exciting here after a very long lull with this family.

Very many thanks for that great lead. OH is following it up right now.

Gwyn

Henry Rooney
Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898

marriage: 07 Apr 1863 —St. Mary Shandon, Cork, Ireland
parents: William Rooney
spouse: Sarah Lendrum

record title: Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898
groom's name: Henry Rooney
bride's name: Sarah Lendrum
marriage date: 07 Apr 1863
marriage place: St. Mary Shandon, Cork, Ireland
groom's father's name: William Rooney
bride's father's name: James Lendrum
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M70228-4
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 101445



Tomisina Rooney
Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

birth: 16 Apr 1868 —Cork, Ireland
residence: 1868 —Cork, Ireland
parents: Henry Rooney, Sarah Jane Lendrum

record title: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
name: Tomisina Rooney
gender: Female
birth date: 16 Apr 1868
birthplace: Cork, Ireland
father's name: Henry Rooney
mother's name: Sarah Jane Lendrum
indexing project (batch) number: C01186-4
system origin: Ireland-ODM
source film number: 101169




Henrietta Rooney
Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

birth: 12 Jan 1870 —CORK, IRELAND
residence: 1870 —Ireland
parents: Henry Rooney, Sarah Jane Lendrum

record title: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
name: Henrietta Rooney
gender: Female
birth date: 12 Jan 1870
birthplace: CORK, IRELAND
father's name: Henry Rooney
mother's name: Sarah Jane Lendrum
indexing project (batch) number: C01211-0
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 101204

Hi Gwyn,

Sorry-breakfast dishes were calling me!

I was a little worried about Henrietta's age on the various US census,but I think she was just chopping off years to appear as young as her husband!!!

Sadly,it looks as though Henry James has died by 1920.
1920 United States Federal Census about May Rooney
Name: May Rooney
[Mary Rooney]
Home in 1920: Salem Ward 6, Essex, Massachusetts
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Ireland
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's Birth Place: Ireland
Marital Status: Widowed
[Widow]
Race: White
Sex: Female
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1906
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
May Rooney 38
Helen Rooney 12
Dorothy Rooney 10
Eileen Rooney 7
Kathleen Rooney 5
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Salem Ward 6, Essex, Massachusetts; Roll: T625_697; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 278; Image: 404.

Good luck!

Maureen

Choccy and Maureen,

Thank you so much for this extra information.
I have left my husband to delve into this Irish side and now the information is coming so fast.
This week he has found another ROONEY descendant in Australia and has been able to put 2 cousins in their 90s in touch with each other, after a lifetime of not knowing of the other's existance,, so e mails between them are going back and forth thick and fast.

What a week.
Many, many thanks.

Gwyn

The GRO(I) index thru 1958 (excl N. Ireland post-partition) is available at:
https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/list#page=1®ion=EUROPE

One can purchase certs (or cheaper still, the uncertified images of the rego) via:
http://www.groireland.ie/

The Irish 1901/1911 censuses are free at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
[Not heard of any release dates for next census (=1926 in both Irelands)]

Most City of Dublin parish registers are free online at:
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/
[There are also Carlow, Cork & Kerry OPRs there too]

The above FS link will lead to Choccy's baptisms too. For US census, use
https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/list#page=1®ion=NORTH_AMERICA

The record's linked to the image in US 1900.
The 1890 was 99.9% destroyed by fire, and there's not enough source info to find the 1910 without going real geeky.
For 1920 (sim 1930) look up at:
http://www.archive.org/details/1920_census
The last 3 digits of the LDS film # match those of the NARA reel #.
Guess an image # (it's 900 in 1910) - look up a name on that image and adjust your guess.

Here's the geek-free 1910
http://www.archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po587unit#page/n900/mode/1up
Note both families are at 28, Upham St, Salem.

mgnv

Some great leads to more help and information there.

Many thanks for your help.

Gwyn