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Gillian
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1 Dec 2011 14:04 |
Hi
I am looking to find a list of inmates in the 1901 census for Dursley Workhouse, Gloucestershire:
In particular, I am looking to find
Ada Lilly Workman born 1899 ( she would have been 1 / 2 yrs old.
Many thanks
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Dec 2011 14:09 |
cant see her . who were her parents please . How do you know she was in a workhouse?
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1 Dec 2011 14:11 |
sure you have her birth but for our info Name: WORKMAN, Ada Lily Registration District: Dursley County: Gloucestershire Year of Registration: 1899 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume No: 6A Page No: 279
so would list as born 1900 on census
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1 Dec 2011 14:13 |
is this her in 1911? WORKMAN, Alfred Head Married M 35 1876 Motor Driver Steam Highnam Glos VIEW WORKMAN, Gartrude Wife Married 17 years F 36 1875 Newent Glos VIEW WORKMAN, William Son Single M 15 1896 Errand Boy Gloucestershire Gloucester VIEW WORKMAN, Christina Daughter F 13 1898 Gloucestershire Gloucester VIEW WORKMAN, Ada Daughter F 12 1899 Gloucestershire Gloucester VIEW WORKMAN, Nellie Daughter F 10 1901 Gloucestershire Gloucester VIEW WORKMAN, Thomas Son M 6 1905 Gloucestershire Cheltenham VIEW WORKMAN, Denal Son M 5 1906 Gloucestershire Cheltenham VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 5874 Reference: RG14PN5874 RG78PN267 RD95 SD2 ED43 SN186 Registration District: Christchurch Sub District: Bournemouth Enumeration District: 43 Parish: Bournemouth Address: 62 Markham Road Winton Bournemouth County: Hampshire 8 children born 2 died
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1 Dec 2011 14:14 |
Hi
It was a 'last chance' look in the Dursley Workhouse.
Ada Lilly Workman had 5 older siblings & in 1901 they were in the Workhuse in Thornbury.
Their mother Sarah Ann Workman was living in 1901 with her new partner William Beckerton. in Alderley, just outside Wotton under Edge ( following the death of her husband in 1897 - Joseph Workman )
I have looked at all the family members that I know of to see if Ada was with any of them in 1901 - but cant find her anywhere.
Looking at the childrens births - although they were all born either Charfield or Wotton U Edge, the older 5, were registered Thornbury & Ada was registered Dursley - so I wondered if she had been sent to the workhouse there.....
I dont know where else to look for her.
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1 Dec 2011 14:15 |
same family 1901 WORKMAN, Alfred H Head Married M 26 1875 Oil Mills Pressman Higham Gloucestershire VIEW WORKMAN, Gertrude C Wife Married F 28 1873 Newent Gloucestershire VIEW WORKMAN, William G Son M 5 1896 St Lukes Gloucestershire VIEW WORKMAN, Christina J Daughter F 3 1898 St Lukes Gloucestershire VIEW WORKMAN, Ada E Daughter F 2 1899 St Lukes Gloucestershire VIEW WORKMAN, Nellie G Daughter F 0 (5 MOS) 1901 St Lukes Gloucestershire VIEW GOODYER, George Father-In-Law Married M 64 1837 Gen Lab Newent Gloucestershire VIEW GOODYER, Ann M Sister-In-Law Single F 18 1883 St Lukes Gloucestershire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 2431 Folio: 200 Page: 34 Registration District: Gloucester Civil Parish: Gloucester Municipal Borough: Address: Seymour Road Tudor Street, Gloucester County: Gloucestershire
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1 Dec 2011 14:16 |
so wrong census family posted will leave so others dont post the same ones.
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1 Dec 2011 14:17 |
your 1911 census is not MY Ada Workman...
The family were re-united somewhere between 1901 & 1911 and they end up in Pontypridd, S.Wales.
Adas mum married William Beckerton in 1902 and Ada hasthe name Ada Beckerton in 1911 census
However - when she marries in 1919 in W.U.E and gives her name as Ada Lilly Workman - father Joseph Workman deceased.
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1 Dec 2011 14:19 |
she isnt listed sorry
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1 Dec 2011 14:21 |
If this is Joseph's death and her is the father, then Sarah must have had a longer than normal pregnancy?
Deaths Jun 1897 Workman Joseph 38 Thornbury 6a 126
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1 Dec 2011 14:25 |
Yep - I have her birth cert and it gives no fathers name - so she was illigitimate.
I have no idea where she is in 1901. I know her mum and soon to be step-dad are in Alderley, W.u E. and her siblings are in the workhouse in Thornbury.
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1 Dec 2011 14:30 |
On the 1911 she is recorded as William's daughter whereas Sarah's daughter from her marriage to Joseph is recorded as William's step daughter.
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1 Dec 2011 14:37 |
I think it is quite possible that she is in fact William Beckertons daughter - however, she was born Ada Lilly Workman and married as Ada Lilly Workman - father Joseph Workman deceased.
So - either she wasnt Williams daughter, but shown as such on the 1911 census ( whilst whe was school age )......and in fact her mother had had a relationship with someone uinknown after her husband, Joseph had died.
Or - she was in fact William Beckertons daughter - but her mother wasnt married to him until 2-3yrs after her birth - so leagally her name was still Workman ( she may have 're-invented' Joseph Workman )- her mothers 1st husband - just for the purpose of her wedding cert.........
I dont as yet know the answer. I'm afraid.
Still leaves the puzzle as to where she was in 1901 tho
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1 Dec 2011 15:13 |
I have just had a thought
Is it possible please to find out who was living in Dyers Brook ( cottage / house) Wooton under Edge in 1901 census?
Ada lilys mum gave that as her address in 1900 when Ada was baptised
Many thanks
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1 Dec 2011 15:41 |
took a bit to find
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 84 KNIGHT, Ann Head Widow F 78 1823 Kingswood Gloucestershire VIEW 84 DERRETT, Lewis Lodger Widower M 81 1820 Wotton U Edge Gloucestershire VIEW 84 ORCHARD, Louisa Lodger Single F 33 1868 Wotton U Edge Gloucestershire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 85 PERRIN, Esther Head Single F 52 1849 Dressmaker Leighterton Gloucestershire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 86 BAILEY, George Head Married M 45 1856 Labourer Wotton U Edge Gloucestershire VIEW 86 BAILEY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 46 1855 Laundress Wotton U Edge Gloucestershire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 88 GAY, Sarah Head Widow F 65 1836 Innkeeper West Kington Wiltshire VIEW 88 ALLEN, William Grand Son Single M 16 1885 Fishmonger's Assistant Leicester Leicestershire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 2414 Folio: 29 Page: 13 Sub District: Wotton Under Edge Enumeration District: 2 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mary the Virgin Municipal Borough: Address: Dyer's Brook, Ludgate Hill, Wotton Under Edge County: Gloucestershire
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1 Dec 2011 15:43 |
I think its area rather than a particular house as they are separate households
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1 Dec 2011 15:44 |
Shirley - thank you SO much for looking -
I guess that Dyers Brook is a street then - and not just a house ( as I had thought )?? 4 houses in Dyers Brook ( street) - is that correct please?
Thanks again Gill
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1 Dec 2011 15:51 |
I think that if Ada was William's child she was more likely to be living with a relative in 1901 as opposed to the workhouse like Joseph's children. It may be that she is lurking in the 1901 with a different surname but I just can't see a possibility!
If this is William before he married Sarah then it looks like Ada was named for one of his sisters?
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Name: William Beckerton Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Beckerton Mother's Name: Elizabeth Beckerton Gender: Male Where born: Wotton Under Edge, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Wotton Under Edge County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: Brickyard Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Ag Lab Registration district: Dursley Sub-registration district: Wotton Under Edge ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2518 Folio: 79 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age George Beckerton 38 Elizabeth Beckerton 38 William Beckerton 14 Ellen Beckerton 12 Joseph Beckerton 10 Agnes Beckerton 8 James Beckerton 7 Ada Beckerton 4 John Beckerton 3
Have you looked for marriages for his sisters please? Have you found any of them in 1901 to see if Ada is there either as Ada or Lily?
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1 Dec 2011 15:53 |
Yes 4 separate listings
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1 Dec 2011 15:57 |
I wonder .but it can only be a ??, whether she was in fact with William and Sarah but they didnt give her details because of the different surnames. Mind you they could have listed her as a Beckerton !!
She certainly doesnt show up on a type of search
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