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Glitterbaby

Peggy

If you need to order certs then use this website

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

You need to register first and have the details for example

Births Mar 1901
Suddaby Edna
Sculcoates
Vol: 9d Page: 208

This is the official site but beware there are other sites that charge as much as £30 instead of £9.25

Hi Patchem

I didn't know I could buy them...... can I buy them from deaths births and marriages in Hull or do I have to go some where else xx

Peggy

PS I think they got married on Christmas Eve Herbert was on leave from the navy at the time so Im told..... I've just been going through that free births and marriages site I found a couple with the same name and the same month that I was told its telling me they married in 1933 xx

Pleased that the names your aunt gave you confirmed what we have found.
If there is any doubt (and there is) it is always best to start buying certificates and slowly working your way back.
So you need the birth certificates and marriage certificates to make sure that everything fits together.

Hi All

I think the searches you have done your on the right track I seem to be off in another direction and got no where.........I was right about my dad getting all his aunts and uncles names mixed up.......just managed to get a hold of an Aunts number and rang her my dads sister tells me there was a Wilfred , May, Edna, Irene and George....she even said McArthur sounded familiar to her xx

Struggling with those extra names at the moment


Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Suddaby Sydney Sculcoates 9d 180


Name: Sidney Suddaby
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1902
Age at Death: 4
Registration district: Sculcoates
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 90



On 1901 census with parents of Robert B Suddaby and Sarah

Name: Robert Bird Suddaby
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1909
Age at Death: 51
Registration district: Sculcoates
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 110

Hi Patchem

the Info you asked about and a seaside town was mentioned earlier which my dad recalls the family coming from a seaside town he thought it was Scarborough though.

Wilfred, Sidney, Arthur, George, William and Ethel.... I've got no birth dates for these family members apart from Wilfred which Im not a certain of but I think 1902 was the year he was born x

Could you post the names that your Father gave you, so we can have a look also? (With any further useful dates, places, if you have them)
Thank-you.

Hi Patchem

I haven't got her birth certificate only what I think is her's that I found in births and the info my father gave me of all her brothers and sister which Im not sure if here got that info right as his memory isn't very good these days.....so my concern with the info my father gave me is that the aunties and uncles name his recalling belong to his father's side of the family.

Peggy

PS Just called my father to get in touch with his sister and brothers because he cant remember her birth date the year 1912 is right.

You need to get that birth certificate for her to see what information it holds.

Hi All

thanks to you just going through all the info you have sent me gosh I need to get my head around this so my grandmothers mother was abandoned by her birth parents and then adopted by John and Ann Midgley is that correct

Cheers Peggy

They have adopted her in 1891:
1891 England Census
Emily H M Arthur Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Midgley Mother's Name: Ann Midgley
Gender: Female Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabus
Town: Kingston Upon Hull County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Piece: 3939 Folio: 41
Page Number: 9

John Midgley 65
Ann Midgley 62
Midgley Wild 18
Emily H M Arthur 14
Sarah A Mc Cabe 20

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3939; Folio 41; Page 9; GSU roll: 6099049.

Midgeley is a niece in 1881 but a nephew in 1891 (a marine fireman)

This looks like the marriage of John and Ann, so Emily does not appear to be directly related to them, and 'deserted' could be accurate
Marriages Dec 1848
Atkinson Henry Leeds 23 481
Dyson John Leeds 23 481
Gatenby Jane Leeds 23 481
Gibson Sarah Leeds 23 481
xxx MATHERS Ann Leeds 23 481
xxx Midgley John Leeds 23 481
Shaw Sarah Leeds 23 481
TOTTIE Robert Leeds 23 481

1881
Name: Emily Hopkinson Mc Arthur
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Child
Father's Name: John Midgeley
Mother's Name: Anne Midgeley
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 4 New York Terr Humber Bank
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4772
Folio: 5
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
John Midgeley 56
Anne Midgeley 52
Midgeley Wild 8
Emily Hopkinson Mc Arthur 4
Annie My. Barber

Looks like "deserted child" on the image??

Name: Emily Hopkinson McArthur
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1876
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 269 (click to see others on page)

Have you tried looking for any birth marriages or deaths at Freebmd?

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Also you have been given the 1911 census that shows a couple of children before Edna was born

You will find a couple of others which look likely

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
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SUDDABY Irene Hopkinson-McArthur Sculcoates 9d 362

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
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Suddaby George Hopkinson Sculcoates 9d 257

Gitterbaby and Patchem
you have given me a couple of surnames there I can search with.

Thank you
Peggy

Hi Gitterbaby

Do you know if the female with the maiden name McArthur had more children than just Edna.

Thank you
Peggy

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Name: Wilfred Suddaby
Spouse Surname: Rich (Louisa)
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1924
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 561

Name: Wilfred Suddaby
Birth Date: abt 1902
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1967
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 2a
Page: 278

I've searched all of the birth certificate with the names my father gave me of all Edna's brothers and sister but when I came across a certificate I thought was the one the mother's maiden name was missing from the certificate.

Thank you

PS that last thread sent by Glitterbaby did Wilfred marry a lady called Louise

Strange but found the 1911 first on Ancestry who had it correct