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Hi Guys

Thanks once again for the advice. I have edited the first post, good job you mentioned about not deleting it coz I nearly forgot. Mgnv thanks for all the sites. I really like http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html. Theres is some really good stuff on there.

Thanks again Jax for all the help can you take a quick look at my first post again just to see if its ok.

I think my next step should be to get my grandfather richards birth cert to confirm his parents names is that correct.

Thanks so much guys
Danny

Looks good to me Danny

You said the marriage cert tied in with everything we said, if it said his father was George then that 1911 could be them but to do it properly you could get the birth cert.

were there any witnesses on the marriage cert who could be siblings do you think?

jax

Don't think so Jax. Names I have not heard of I did find out that Grandmas father was deceased. That was Robert Cartmell. Also the company which Grandad worked for which could be interesting. It refered to my Great Grandfather George as a Tiler & Slater (Journeyman)Have you got any idea what journeyman means?

Do you know exactly where I order the birth cert from please would it be the same place?

Danny

Was George's father Richard??

1901 England Census
about George Kirkham
Name: George Kirkham
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard Kirkham
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: South Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Ardwick St Silas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 190
Piece: 3677
Folio: 140
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Kirkham 42 Slater b Poulton le Fylde
George Kirkham 14 Slaters Labr
Richard Kirkham 11
William Kirkham 8
John Kirkham 5
Dorothy Kirkham 32 sister b Blackpool
William Kirkham 37 brother b. Poulton le Fylde
Frances Kirkham 3 Niece b Blackpool

at 28 Solent St.


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3677; Folio: 140; Page: 26

Someone has said that to me before Dea. I am applying for Grandma and Grandads birth certs at the mo but I am stuck on Grandmas DOB. I have ??/09/1921 should i just guess the date they wont let me proceed otherwise.

I think Ruchard is Georges father but one thing i don't understand is would George have married Mary Graham at 16??? and she was 18.

Danny

I don't see why not Daniel and the 1911 backs it up !!

Dea x

You don't need the dob to order the cert - Hang on a while till you can explain what site you are on and what you are doing!!

Dea x

Are you ordering it through GRO site?

Dea x

Have you ticked to say that you have the GRO reference?

If so, you should only need to give the Quarter and the year and the reference numbers.

It will cost £9.25

Dea x

By the way - Journeyman means that he had served his apprenticeship in his trade and was paid by the day (from 'jour' - french) for the work which he did!

Dea x

I realised that after Dea thank. I thought the GRO was a seperate number but it was just the volume and page number.

2 x certs ordered grandads and grandmas

Can't wait.

Danny

Post the details on here please when you receive them !

Dea Xxx

Will do Dea.

Really excited.

Estimated date of the cert is 27th Jan.

Found out so much already and told my Mum. She was amazed and confused but really happy to finally know the real details.

Danny

Hi All

Got my Grandparents birth certs:

RIchard Kirkham (grandad)

Born 16/2/1912

Father George Kirkham, Mother Mary Graham

Lived in Hulme, Chorlton, Hulme

Vera Elizabeth Cartmell (grandma)

Father Robert Cartmell, Mother Elizabeth McCarthy

Lived in Marple, Near Stockport

So all the info I got from you all has checked out.

Thank you all so much.

Danny

I posted her death on page 1 Sylann

jax

Thanks mil guys sorry for the late reply I have been chatiing to my mum and she says that she remembers being to the grave once as a child. So we are planning a trip over to see it.

Thank you so much again guys

Danny

Hi Guys

Just to update you I have recieved the copies of both of my great grandparnets Marraige certs on the maternal side. So all you have helped me with is now confirmed.

Thank you so so much for all your help I am now onto my great great grandparents. I have Richard Graham father of Mary graham who was born in c. 1884. Also Richard Kirkham father of George who was born c.1886.

Thank you so much again to all of you for helping,

Danny

So Daniel,

Who was your grandmother who drowned in 1954 please???

Dea Xxx

deleted at Daniel's request .

Dea Xxx

Are you there Danny???

Dea Xxx