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SSSoooo Peter,

We have an awful lot of info on Henry/Harry now (thanks to the people above).

Who are you trying to connect him to in 'your' family ???

Dea Xxx

Berry, Henry

Played for England in four Internationals: 1910 W+ I= F+ (1t) S+ (1t)

Henry Berry was born on 8 January 1883 at Gloucester. Husband of Beatrice Eveline Berry, of 68 Alvin Street, Gloucester.

Played as a Forward for: St Mark’s School Gloucester, Gloucester, The Army

Profession: Army/Publican

Remarks: He served in the Gloucestershire Regiment 4th Militia Volunteers during the South African War (Queen’s Medal) on St Helena, having enlisted at age 16. He later transferred to the 1st Battalion of the Gloucester Regiment and served in Ceylon and India, then became a Reserve in 1909 after contracting malaria. During his service he played Rugby for the Regiment, and was captain of ‘D’ Company’s team for five unbeaten seasons. Henry played for Gloucester RFC between 1909 and 1913, originally as a centre and later as a forward. He was selected as reserve for England in 1909. In 1910 he played in England’s first match at Twickenham.

xxxx In January 1910 he married Beatrice Eveline Arnold and together they ran the Red Lion public house, later moving to The Stag’s Head. Their son, Harry George, was born in August 1911, and a daughter, Phyllis Irene was born in April 1915. xxxx

War service: He was recalled to the Regiment in 1914 and served as 5711, Corporal, 1st Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment, 3rd Brigade, 1st Division. He went to France in February 1915.

On the 8th May they [the 1st Battalion] moved up to take part in the battle of Aubers Ridge. The attacks failed and the Battalion marched back to Locon on the 10th May. They had lost 11 officers and 253 men.

At 1600 on 9 May 1915, the 1st Gloucesters attacked with the 1st South Wales Borderers during the Battle of Aubers Ridge. The two battalions lost 495 men between them, including Harry Berry.

He was killed in action on 9 May 1915, at Festubert, and is commemorated on the Le Touret Memorial, Pas de Calais, France [Panel 17].

Thanks to everybody who replied to my post. Your help is greatly appreiciated. There is a lot of information to sift through. I am not sure if we are related some of the names associated with him appear in my information but the dates don't match up. But I'll keep researching, I will get to to bottom of this. Its difficult living in Canada trying to piece together your family history. Biggest source of information Parents and immediate family have passed away. :-D

Another article states:
Coming out of the army in 1909, Henry Berry returned to Gloucester, where his parents lived in Alvin Street, and joined Gloucester Rugby Club. He became a star forward, earning a call-up to the England side of 1910, playing in all the Five Nations games of that year. At the time of his death in 1915, Harry’s wife was landlady of the Stag’s Head Inn in Alvin Street.

1881?

1881 Wales Census about Emily Arnold
Name: Emily Arnold
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William C. Arnold
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Cardiff St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: No 26 Crichton St

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5279
Folio: 12
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
William C. Arnold 26 - born: Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales (Occupation: Tramcar Conductor)
Emily Arnold 21
William C. Arnold

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about William Charles Arnold
Name: William Charles Arnold
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1889
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: Chepstow
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 4

I didn't look at the article..........based my research on the death info on CWGC

What should be the 'right' name for the mother?

1891 Wales Census about Beatrice Arnold
Name: Beatrice Arnold
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's name: Emily Price (on 1911 census!)
Gender: Female
Where born: Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Chepstow
Ecclesiastical parish: Chepstow
Town: Chepstow
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Chepstow
Sub-registration district: Chepstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4336
Folio: 56
Page Number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Price 38
Emily Price 30
Elizabeth Price 12
James Price 10
Arthur Arnold 9
Edgar Arnold 7
Beatrice Arnold 5
Amelia Arnold 2


1901 Wales Census about Beatrice Arnold
Name: Beatrice Arnold
Age in 1901: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's name: Emily Price (on 1911 census!)
Gender: Female
Where born: Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Chepstow
Ecclesiastical parish: Chepstow
Town: Chepstow
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Chepstow
Sub-registration district: Chepstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 4917
Folio: 10
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Price 45
Emily Price 40
William Arnold 20
Arthur Arnold 18
Edgar Arnold 16
Albert Smith 28
Beatrice Arnold 14
Amelia Arnold 11
Rosie Arnold 8
Richard Price 7
Albert Price 4
Florence Price 3


Marriages Mar 1891 (>99%)
xxxx Arnold Emily Cardiff 11a 559
Ferris Mary Ann Cardiff 11a 559
Hall Francis Cardiff 11a 559
xxxx Price Richard Cardiff 11a 559

The article, and my reference, said he was a career soldier.

OK, he rejoined at start of WW1, so could be an innkeeper - but wrong name for Mother?

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All right, I admit defeat on that one with remarried mother in law.

He wasn't a career soldier, was he?

He was an International Rugby player, which fits perfectly with his being an Innkeeper.

The 1881 census shows him living within shouting distance of Gloucester Rugby ground

Births Dec 1886 (>99%)
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Arnold Beatrice Eveline Chepstow 11a _

Are career soldiers normally also innkeepers?

Siblings?

BERRY Alice BERRY BERRY HARDING 1878 Gloucester Gloucester, St Nicholas 22 476
BERRY Emmanuel BERRY BERRY HARDING 1876 Gloucester Gloucester, St Nicholas 22 115
BERRY James BERRY BERRY HARDING 1867 Gloucester Gloucester, St Nicholas 16 237
BERRY Kate BERRY BERRY HARDING 1875 Gloucester Gloucester, St Nicholas 21 93
BERRY Louisa BERRY BERRY HARDING 1873 Gloucester Gloucester, St Nicholas 20 175
BERRY William Henry BERRY BERRY HARDING 1869 Gloucester Gloucester, St Nicholas 17 350

1911 ?

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

BERRY, Henry Head M 25 1886 Inn Keeper Gloucester VIEW
BERRY, Beatrice Wife F 24 1887 Chepstow VIEW
PRICE, Emily Mother F 49 1862 Cardiff VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
15284 Reference:
RG14PN15284 RG78PN925 RD325 SD2 ED4 SN398

Registration District:
Gloucester Sub District:
Gloucester Northern Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Gloucester

Address:
Red Lion Northgate Street Gloucester County:
Gloucestershire


Births Dec 1886 (>99%)
Arnold Beatrice Eveline Chepstow 11a _

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Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry

BERRY Henry BERRY BERRY HARDING 1883 Gloucester Gloucester, St Nicholas 25 371

His children?

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
BERRY Henry G Arnold Gloucester 6a 575

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
BERRY Phyllis I Arnold Gloucester 6a 527

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry


BERRY Henry ARNOLD Beatrice Eveline Gloucester Gloucester St Catherine 1910 27 No 3 176

So, Peter, who are your Berry ancestors?

Some facts from the free CWGC site

BERRY, HENRY
Initials: H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Gloucestershire Regiment
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 32
Date of Death: 09/05/1915
Service No: 5711
Additional information: Husband of Beatrice Eveline Berry, of 68, Alvin St., Gloucester. English International (1910).
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 17.
Memorial: LE TOURET MEMORIAL


Now look for his marriage.................

The 1881 confirms they are Berry in 1891
1881 England Census
James Berry Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Berry
Gender: Male Where born: Gloster, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Gloucester Kingsholm St Mary County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: 42 Columbia St
Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Dock Laborer
Registration district: Gloucester Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 2532 Folio: 36 Page Number: 38
James Berry 47
Hannah Berry 42
Ellen Berry 19
Clara Berry 16
James Berry 14
Louisa Berry 8
Kate Berry 6
Alice Berry 2
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2532; Folio: 36; Page: 38; GSU roll: 1341611.

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Henry Berry
Event(s)
Birth: 1883

Gloucester,Gloucestershire,England

Parents
Father: James Berry
Mother: Hannah Harding