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I think you're right with the 1881, Sylann:

MC CALPINE, John Head Married M 50 1831 Labourer Common Scotland
MC CALPINE, Margaret Wife Married F 51 1830 Berwick on Tweed Northumberland
MC CALPINE, John Son Single M 18 1863 Painter Scotland
MC CALPINE, Thomas Son Single M 15 1866 Errand Boy Scotland
MC CALPINE, William Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Berwick on Tweed Northumberland

Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne
Civil Parish: Byker

Address: 196, Parker St, Byker County: Northumberland

Thank you for your help it looks as though this other person has got the families mixed up

I'll cross that off my tree

... perhaps if John gave up shoemaking and took to the cloth?

This is John & Grace in 1901, Toronto, Ontario. He's a clergyman so probably the one who died in 1914.


McAlpine John M Head M Oct 28 1830 70

McAlpine Grace F Wife M May 15 1850 50

The Reverend and Grace made a trip in 1909, so must have had a visit home if they were on the 1891 in Canada

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Rev John MCALPINE
Date of departure: 8 May 1909
Port of departure: Glasgow
Destination port: Montreal
Destination country: Canada

Date of Birth: 1832 (calculated from age)
Age: 77
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Clergyman
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 8
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Mrs Grace G MCALPINE
Ship: PRETORIAN
Official Number: 113969
Master's name: Edward Pitts
Steamship Line: Allan Line Steamship Co Ltd
Where bound: Montreal, Canada
Square feet: 7280
Registered tonnage: 4076
Passengers on voyage: 212

Sylann, your John was a shoemaker and the one that died in Ontario 1914 was a vicar.

Berwick changed between Scotland and England a few times, I believe.

Yes that is the one I have 1871 they don't seem to be able to make their minds up Northumberland /Scotland

Think I might have found them in 1881 but their name is down as Mc Calpine their in Northumberland ??

Just wondering if Margaret died and he remarried ??

Posting that 1871 for reference:

MCALPINE, John Head M 38 1833 Scotland < Shoemaker
MCALPINE, Margaret Wife F 40 1831 Northumberland
MCALPINE, George Son M 15 1856 Northumberland < Ropespinner
MCALPINE, Celia Daughter F 12 1859 Northumberland
MCALPINE, John Son M 9 1862 Northumberland
MCALPINE, Thomas Son M 6 1865 Northumberland
MCALPINE, William Son M 4 1867 Northumberland
MCALPINE, Francis Son M 0 1871 Northumberland

Registration District: Berwick
Civil Parish: Berwick
Municipal Borough: Berwick

Address: Walkergate Lane, Berwick County: Northumberland

** All born Berwick except John

Sylann - never, ever, ever believe what is on anyone else's tree!! (Unless they're prepared to show you the documentation they have to back it up).

As I said above, people often force things to fit.

See my question above about his children.

Hi Don't think that would be him I found the family in Berwick Northumberland 1871 but nothing after that so thinking they emmigrated 1875ish

I found this match on another tree!!! the family seem to be the same so trying to follow it up

I've found the above chap on the 1891 Canada census and he was married to a Grace - do you still think he's yours?

Sylann - what was the occupation of your John? Have you found his children on any later census.

I'm wondering if someone has just found a death of someone born around the same time and decided to make it fit?

Would this be him in 1911. He seems to be the father of Anna M. Whitson. Trouble is his wife is Grace. Both born Scotland and emigrated 1908, as did Anna M.

Whitson James F. 617 Huron St M Head M Jul 1869 42
Whitson Anna M. F Wife M Jul 1875 35
Whitson Jenet M. F Daughter S Dec 1900 10
Whitson Duncan D. M Son S Feb 1903 8
McAlpine John 617 Huron St M Father-in-law M Oct 1831 79
McAlpine Grace F Mother-in-law M May 1847 63


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This might be the death you refer to:

Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 a

Name: John Mcalpine
Death Date: 24 Feb 1914
Death County or District: York
Age: 83
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831

Resided 617 Huron Street, died of senile decay - sudden cessation of heart action. He was a retired clergyman. The Informant was Bates Burials.

Will try to find immigration ...

Do you know his parent's names?