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Shelagh

Shelagh Report 27 May 2012 09:40

Andrew Hinman Hurlbutt (b 1866 North Shields) arrived in Toronto in 1920. He married Ethel Alice Jordan(nee Baker) in Toronto the same year. She was born in Deal kent and she was on the 1911 England census with her 1st husband and children. I would love to know if they travelled on the same ship and dates of death etc.
Regards
Shelagh

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 May 2012 09:43

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Andrew W Hurlbutt
Name: Andrew W Hurlbutt
Gender: Male
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Date of Arrival: 7 Sep 1920
Vessel: Empress of Britain
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Britain' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14709

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 May 2012 09:46

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Ethel Jordon
Name: Ethel Jordon
Gender: Female
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Date of Arrival: 24 Oct 1919
Vessel: Metagama
Search Ship Database: View the 'Metagama' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14703

or

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Ethel Jordon
Name: Ethel Jordon
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Date of Arrival: 5 Jun 1920
Vessel: Canada
Search Ship Database: View the 'Canada' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14705

Andy

Gee

Gee Report 27 May 2012 10:49

Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947
Name: Andrew Hinman Hurlbutt <<<Sailor
Death Date: 30 Jun 1938
Death County or District: York
Age: 73
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Birth Location: England

Web: CanadianHeadstones.com Index
about Ah Hurlbutt

Name: Ah Hurlbutt
Cemetery: Pine Ridge / Humber Summit+, North York Twp.
Burial Place: York (Toronto) (York), Ontario, Can (Canada)
Notes: H.M.S. Ireland R.N.,B.E.F. Lieut Comr A.H. Hurlbutt 1865 - 1938
URL: http://www.canadianheadstones....
Notes: Ethel Hurlbutt Wife of Lt. Commander Hurlbutt 1878 - 1939



Informant of death: Chas Thomas Jordan...step son
Cause of death: perforated duodenal ulcer

Gee

Gee Report 27 May 2012 10:56

Web: CanadianHeadstones.com Index
Name: Ethel Hurlbutt
Cemetery: Pine Ridge / Humber Summit+, North York Twp.
Burial Place: York (Toronto) (York), Ontario, Can (Canada)
Notes: Ethel Hurlbutt Wife of Lt. Commander Hurlbutt 1878 - 1939
URL: http://www.canadianheadstones....

Gee

Gee Report 27 May 2012 11:04

He married her in 1926 not 1920


Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1928
about Andrew Hinman Hurlbutt
Name: Andrew Hinman Hurlbutt
Birth Place: Northshalds Eng
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Father Name: Wm H Hurlbert Robina Slater Hurlbutt
Mother Name: Hurlbutt
Spouse Name: Ethel Annie Jordan
Spouse's Age: 41
Spouse Birth Place: Deal England
Spouse Father Name: Richard Thos Baker Sarah Cassells Jordan
Spouse Mother Name: Jordan
Marriage Date: 9 Sep 1926
Marriage County or District: York

Gee

Gee Report 27 May 2012 11:11

Her name also seems to be Ethel Annie



Marriages Jun 1897
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Baker Ethel Annie Eastry 2a 1869
Jordan Albert Walter Eastry 2a 1869




Her parents marriage (just checking her surname on the marriage entry in CA)


Marriages Sep 1870
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BAKER Richard Thomas Eastry 2a 1117
Castle Sarah Elizabeth Eastry 2a 1117



Name: Sarah Elizabeth Coney Castle
Birth: Apr 1849 - Eastry, Kent

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 May 2012 12:28

The date on the original of the marriage is 1920 not 1926. I see he was a widower.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 May 2012 12:31

His first marriage:

Record

PreviewName: Mary Alice Burn
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1889
Registration district: Tynemouth
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Take a look at the picture to see even more.
See more
Mary Alice Burn Jul-Aug-Sep 1889 Tynemouth Northumberland
View Record
George Bruce Clark Jul-Aug-Sep 1889 Tynemouth Northumberland
View Record
Andrew Hinman Hurlbutt Jul-Aug-Sep 1889 Tynemouth Northumberland
View Record
Andrew Hinwan Hurlbutt Jul-Aug-Sep 1889 Tynemouth Northumberland
View Record
Mary Jane Richardson Jul-Aug-Sep 1889 Tynemouth Northumberland

Gee

Gee Report 27 May 2012 12:45

It does indeed Margee.well spotted. It also says hes a ships captain

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 May 2012 13:09

Curiously I can't find the record of her arrival in Canada but if that's her arriving June 1920 and they married in September same year they must have known each other previously?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2012 13:13

Perhaps she was on the same vessel and it was a shipboard romance? <3 <3

If people are a little more mature in years when they meet their courtship may not be very long .....

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 May 2012 13:20

Andrew's arrival in Canada in 1920 he's with:
E. Hurlbutt, 46
Alfred R., 17
Charles, 15
Lilian E., 14
Albert W., 10
Francis, 8

He was a master mariner but intends to become a confectioner!
He gives name of relative as sister, Mrs May, 43 St. Marks Rd. Don't know if that's a relative in England or Canada?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2012 13:28

At the end of his sister's address on the 1920 arrival it looks like W Toronto has been squeezed in vertically.

Also, it looks like a line has been drawn through Alfred's entry - perhaps he didn't travel?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 May 2012 13:34

Uh oh! The children are hers! They're Jordans on the 1911 census so E. Hurlbutt on the 1920 passenger list is Ethel Jordan. They're not married yet but posing as man and wife!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2012 13:43

There's something not right, I think this is his first wife's death:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Mary A Hurlbutt
Birth Date: abt 1870
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1948
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: South Shields
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 880


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1889
BURN Mary Alice Tynemouth 10b 334 <<
CLARK George Bruce Tynemouth 10b 334
HURLBUTT Andrew Hinman Tynemouth 10b 334 <<
Hurlbutt Andrew Hinwan Tynemouth 10b 334
RICHARDSON Mary Jane Tynemouth 10b 334

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2012 13:49

I know this 1891 isn't what Shelagh asked for, but it helps us see the bigger picture:

THOMPSON, Arthur Head Married M 26 1865 Stoker On Steam Ship Gosport, Hampshire
THOMPSON, Catherine Wife Married F 19 1872 North Shields, Northumberland
THOMPSON, Arthur Son M 0 (7M) 1891 North Shields, Northumberland
HARLBUTT, Andrew Boarder Married M 25 1866 Sailor North Shields, Northumberland
HARLBUTT, Mary A Married F 21 1870 North Shields, Northumberland
HARLBUTT, Anne Boarder F 0 (8M) 1891 North Shields, Northumberland

Piece: 4229 Folio: 48 Page: 11
Registration District: Tynemouth
Civil Parish: Tynemouth
Municipal Borough: Tynemouth

Address: 16, Coburg Street, Tynemouth, North Shields County: Northumberland

On subsequent census Mary Alice is shown as head of household in South Shields but still married.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2012 13:59

Looks like Ethel's first husband didn't die until 1960s:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Albert Walter Jordan
Probate Date: 18 May 1960
Death Date: 7 Mar 1960
Death Place: Kent, England
Registry: London, England

or

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Albert Walter Jordan
Birth Date: 13 Mar 1875
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1969
Age at Death: 94
Registration district: Surrey Northern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 422

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 May 2012 14:06

Well, I think we've uncovered a bigamous marriage in Canada. Think we should report it?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2012 14:09

Nah - they're long gone now!!

I'm not 100% sure about Mr Jordan's death but there's no doubt about Mary Alice Hurlbutt.