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Mandy

Mandy Report 24 Jun 2012 10:05

Hello, I'm trying to confirm that Alice Jessica Maud North married someone with the surname Wellington. She arrived in the US in 1946, aged 35, and was divorced, her maiden name was Morris, and I'm sure she lived in California all her life. I would also like to find records of her death, and that of her spouse. She died around 1980, he died before the early 70's. This is all the information I have. Please advise how I can find out more.
Thank you for reading this.

patchem

patchem Report 24 Jun 2012 10:21

Might be of use:
http://www.genealogybranches.com/california.html

Gee

Gee Report 24 Jun 2012 10:34

Her daughter married in 1965 CA. Do you have the details, if not I can PM then to you?

The marriage is registered three times, under: North, Morris and Wellington

Mandy

Mandy Report 24 Jun 2012 10:47

I have her daughter's details (she is my half sister) and it was her marriage record that made me think that Alice had married someone called Wellington, because Alice's maiden name was Morris, she married and divorced Stanley North (my father) and I was just wondering where the Wellington came from?
My cousin thinks Alice may have remarried, but is not sure, but this may explain the Wellington connection?

Gee

Gee Report 24 Jun 2012 10:49

Can you post Alice' full date of birth please

Is your half sister still alive, could you contact her for the details?

Gee

Gee Report 24 Jun 2012 10:52

Theres this death?


Social Security Death Index
Name: Alice Maud Jessi Vickers
Last Residence: 91911 Chula Vista, San Diego, California, United States of America
Born: 13 May 1910
Died: 27 Sep 2006
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (1958-1959)

patchem

patchem Report 24 Jun 2012 11:29

At the start Mandy said she died about 1980.
Mandy,
Is that definitely around 1980?

This looks like her birth:
Births Jun 1911
Morris Alice J M Warrington 8c 183

Mandy

Mandy Report 24 Jun 2012 11:41

The birth record for Warrington is correct, I don't have the exact date. I've just realised I misread the year of death, it would have been the late 1980's, 1980 is probably a bit too early. Gins, although the death record has the right christian names but in the wrong order, I think this is way too late, but thanks for finding it.
I could ask my half sister, but I've only just found out about her after 55 years, so don't really want to ask about her mum just yet. I was just curious about the Wellington link! Thanks for all your interest.

Gee

Gee Report 24 Jun 2012 12:38

If you send for her certificate you would have a better chance of finding her death

Its just guess work really at this point, thats why I posted the 2006 death.

What makes you think she died in the late 1980s and that she married again?


Heres where you can order the birth certificate for £9.25incl


http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Jun 2012 13:45

Someone on Ancestry has been adding to this one. I can't see the details.

California Death Index, 1940-1997 about Alice Jessica Kerr
Name: Alice Jessica Kerr
[Alice Jessica Morris]
Social Security #: 572388860
Sex: Female
Birth Date: 26 Feb 1911
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 16 Feb 1990
Death Place: Santa Clara
Mother's Maiden Name: Green
Father's Surname: Morris

Maureen

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Jun 2012 14:09

Re: that death notice - I've found a marriage of a Wyndham Morris and Alice Green in Warrington 1906. Seems to tie in with the 1911 where Alice J M is in Orford Barracks with a couple fitting the bill (not shown together as a family, though - the husband, wives and children all seem to have been listed separately).

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Jun 2012 14:18

Possibly?

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta)
Name: Alice J Kerr
Gender: F (Female)
Residence Year: 1959
Street Address: 967 Oregon av
Residence Place: Palo Alto, California
Spouse: Daniel P Kerr - salesman at R L Smith
Publication Title: Polk's Palo Alto (Santa Clara County, Calif.) City Directory

Can find them on 1956/7/8/9

mgnv

mgnv Report 24 Jun 2012 14:19

Maybe someone could post the 1911 for this lass:

MILITARY MORRIS ALICE JESSICA MAUD F 1911 1 MONTH Warrington Lancashire

Presumably, she relates to:

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1906
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MORRIS Wynshaw G G GREEN Alice Warrington, St Barnabas Warrington C24/2/68

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Jun 2012 14:21

mgnv - like I mentioned above, they aren't shown in family units so there's nothing further on that 1911 to group them together.

Wyndham and Alice Morris are also listed alone in Orford Barracks.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Jun 2012 14:44

Is this not her in 1911?

1911 England Census
about Alice Jessica Maud Morris Name: Alice Jessica Maud Morris
Age in 1911: 1/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Warrington, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Warrington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Warrington
Registration District Number: 459
Sub-registration district: Warrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 49-51
Piece: 23179
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Morris 24
Jennety Alice Morris 3
Elsie Morris 2
Alice Jessica Maud Morris 1/12



MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Jun 2012 15:35

I have lost the plot.

Gins seems to know something about a marriage that I don't see.

IF this is Alice departing:
Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Alice J M NORTH
Date of departure: 31 October 1946
Port of departure: Southampton
Destination port: New York
Destination country: USA

Date of Birth: 1911 (calculated from age)
Age: 35
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: H Wife
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 30 of 89
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
p*ine H NORTH
Ship: QUEEN ELIZABETH
Official Number: 166290
Master's name: Sir J G P Bisset
Steamship Line: The Cunard White Star Line
Where bound: New York, USA
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 42001.22
Passengers on voyage: 2302

p*ine seems to have married a Sortor. I do see Morris and North but I'm stumped for the Wellington part.

?? I do hope someone didn't transcribe Warrington as Wellington.???

Maureen

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to all the M's :-D :-D :-D :-D

Mandy

Mandy Report 24 Jun 2012 16:15

Thank you all for all this info! I think the death in 1990 of Alice Jessica Kerr is probably correct, the information relating to her parents in Warrington also sounds plausible. Orford Barracks is in Warrington, and if Wyndham Morris was in the army the family may have just been listed as being in army accommodation, rather than a household, in 1911?
Doesn't solve the mystery of where 'Wellington' comes from though! It could be a transcription error, or could it be the groom's mother's maiden name, as Morris is the bride's mother's maiden name?

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Jun 2012 16:22

Mandy!

Where are you seeing Wellington? Please!!!

Maureen

Gee

Gee Report 24 Jun 2012 16:26

Name: Paxline H Morris
Spouse: William H
Birth: abt 1940

Name: Paxline H North
Spouse: William
Birth: abt 1940

Name: Paxline H Wellington
Spouse: William
Birth: abt 1940



Mo, these are the listings for the daughters marriage

Edit: Its not showing on the internet as your other thread is but Ive amended her name just in case

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Jun 2012 16:33

I hadn't wanted to post details of the daughter if she's still alive but I see it now has been.

My thoughts were that Pauline may have been previously married?