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Hi again, do you have worldwide subs? If so would you please be able to see if you can find anything for Adele in Spain. She was destined for Vigo in 1916 with her daughter. I do have a copy of the passenger list if you require but would probably have to PM it to you but not sure if there is a facility to attach a document. I am determined to try and get to the bottom of this mystery of my great grand aunt and her daughter and also that of her husband Hugo who wasn't on the passenger list with her.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Hi Kathryn, I have worldwide but unfortunately Ancestry does not have any relevant Spanish records.

Hi Marie, thank you for getting back to me. Much appreciated.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Just a few observations.

The ship Highland Piper was mainly a cargo ship for meat from my reading of it.

It was war time so a possibility they left but did not arrive.

The passenger list says they were subject Bohemia. For Mum it may be by marriage. The name could be Jewish and many Jews changed there name in wartime.
It could be Anglicised to flashman for instance. I think it could be derived from butcher?
The passenger list is actually mainly crew.

Not answers but food for thought.

Thank you LadyKira. I don't suppose there is a list for people who arrived in a country ie Spain?

Am sending off for the birth certificate of the daughter to see if that might throw up any more clues, a long shot I know but it doesn't help really for the Spanish side of things.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Another puzzle

Were they married in a Catholic Church?

I have checked railway records for Cyril and nothing.

I would next look at other Fleischmans in Paddington for clues.

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British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872-1990 about Adele Fleishman
Name: Adele Fleishman
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1897
Death Age: 90
Death Date: 5 Apr 1987
Death Location: Burnaby
Registration number: 1987-09-005640
BCA Number: B17101
GSU Number: 1669934

a widow. Herbert Fleischman living with her.

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 about Mrs Adele Fleishman
Name: Mrs Adele Fleishman
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Marital Status: Widow
Electoral District: Vancouver East
Year: 1949

Hiya LadyKira, thank you for this new information. I think at this stage most of the information is a possibility. Adele was definitely born in 1894. Shall I PM you the marriage cert and passenger list? Thank you so much for your time and help it is much appreciated.

Kind regards

Kathryn

I do not think the Canada one is yours.

I found her on the canadian census and details do not match.

I have looked at the passenger list.

We have no way of knowing if she got to Soain, stayed in Spain or moved on.

Just giving my observations from what we do know.

Hiya, thank you for that. They did marry in a catholic church, the Church of Our Lady Immaculate in Paddington although I have looked for this church and cannot find it. Am sending the marriage cert to you by way of PM, hope you don't mind as I would like your opinion on the father's name, that is Hugo's father I mean. The writing is not very good so hope you can decipher it. I had to enlarge the image to be able to see it properly once saved in my computer. I will be checking for messages before I go to bed later but am back at work tomorrow so won't be checking for any more messages until tomorrow evening. Thank you once again for all your time and help.

Kind regards


Kathryn

I have compared each letter with others on the certificate.

It is definitely Cyrill.

I am also at work tomorrow.

Might be worth investigating this family

1911 Address: 37 Palace Court Bayswater W
FLEISCHMANN, Friedrich Noel Ashcroft Head Married M 32 1879 Private Means Doing Chemical And Mineralogical Research Work Wavertree Liverpool
FLEISCHMANN, Constance Muriel Wife Married F 31 1880 Dulwich London
FLEISCHMANN, Diana Mary Daughter F 4 1907 Paddington London
FLEISCHMANN, Muriel Elizabeth Margaret Daughter F 5 1906 Paddington London
FLEISCHMANN, John Frederick Anthony Son M 1 1910 Paddington London
NUNN, Martha Servant Single F 36 1875 Housemaid Domestic Walthamstow Essex VIEW
ADAMS, Kate Servant Single F 32 1879 Parlourmaid Domestic Western Underwood Bucks VIEW
THAIR, Kate Servant Single F 36 1875 Nurse Domestic Kingston Surrey
MCMULLEN, May Servant Single F 22 1889 Nursemaid Domestic Battersea London
CRUTCHLOW, Julia Servant Single F 28 1883 Cook Domestic Switzerland
SHEPHERD, Alice Servant Single F 18 1893 Kitchenmaid Domestic Holborn London
SYNMONS, May Servant Single F 18 1893 Underhousemaid Domestic Portsmouth Hants