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mgnv

mgnv Report 15 Aug 2012 07:18

Mark - Jan posted the 1841 census ref, specifically:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 509
Book/Folio: 8/15
Page: 22

You can search for this page on FMP, Ancestry and GR.

On FMP, go to https://www.findmypast.co.uk/ then Search Records - Census, etc - then a person search of any year.
There's a censys ref search link in bottom right corner of search screen.

On Ancestry, you need to do an old style search, so go to http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ then Search - Search all records.
The old/new switch will now appear at far right just under the main banner bar
Click on Go to Old Search (unless the switch says Go to New Search - in that case you're already in old search)
Now from main banner bar again: Search - Census etc and pick the appropriate census from the big list.
On search screen, show advanced option and check exact matches only.

On GR, the search by ref link is below the normal census search screen

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 14 Aug 2012 22:58

thanks mgnv

didn't realise that it was on the printed form - just knew I had seen it before

the last one I found at Haslingdon was 30th Dec 1829 and the next one was different so that 1929ish was pretty accurate, I would guess from 1 Jan 1830

mgnv

mgnv Report 14 Aug 2012 22:45

The pre-printed registers for 1812-ish thru 1829-ish read:

MARRIAGES solemnized in the Parish of ________
in the County of ___________ in the Year One
thousand eight hundred and __________
==============================================
_____________________ of _______ Parish
_______________________________________
and _________________ of _______ Parish
_______________________________________
[****] were married in this ______ by __________ with Consent of
____________________________ this ______________ Day of
_________ in the Year One thousand eight hundred and __________
By me ____________________
This Marriage was solemnized between us { _____________________
{ _____________________
In the Presence of { __________________________________________
{ __________________________________________
No.
===============================================
Matthew Kirk of this Parish
and Hannah Smith of the Parish
of Medomsley
were married in this chapel by banns with Consent of
Parents this Twenty-Third Day of
December in the Year One thousand eight hundred and seventeen
By me Robert Greenwood Curate
This Marriage was solemnized between us { The mark of X Matthew Kirk
{ The mark of X Hannah Smith
In the Presence of { Thomas Coldwell
{ Will'm Storey
No. 9
[That was from Cramlington, Northumberland - image 60 of 310 of DUR BTs at FS]
In Cramlington, by 1827, they'd moved to newer registers and the line I've [****]-ed above was replaced by:

were married in this Church by ___________________________
E.g. image 105 of 310
were married in this Church by Banns with consent of those whose parents
is required

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 14 Aug 2012 18:23

just for info

ALL the marriages at St James haslingdon are entered with the words 'with the consent of'

eg
from at least this one:
Marriage: 14 Mar 1813 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
George Ingham - of This Chapelry
Hannah Barlow - of This Chapelry
Witness: Jane Ingham; Thos Wilding
Married by Banns with consent of Guardians by: F Reay Curate<<<<<<<<<
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Page 11, Entry 32
Source: LDS Film 1068835

until:
Marriage: 30 Dec 1829 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
John Brambley - of Crawshawbooth in this Chapelry
Sarah Driver - (X), of Row within Higher Booths in this Chapelry
Witness: John Haworth; James Duckworth
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: William Grey Minister<<<<<<<<
Register: Marriages 1822 - 1831, Entry 876
Source: LDS Film 1068836


They can't all have been under age!

Mark

Mark Report 14 Aug 2012 18:11

Is the address through fmp or census - what is the actual address please and for what years

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Aug 2012 18:06

Marriage of Abraham. Same address.

Marriage: 1 Jan 1822 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Abraham Holt - of Higher Booths
Ellen Barcroft - (X), of Higher Booths
Witness: John Holt; Thos Wilding
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: William Grey Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Entry 862
Source: LDS Film 1068836

Another with the address.

Marriage: 15 Feb 1813 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Henry Haworth - of Higher Booths within this Chapelry
Rachel Holt - of Higher Booths within this Chapelry
Witness: James Kay; James Wilding
Married by Banns with consent of Guardians by: F Reay Curate
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Page 7, Entry 21
Source: LDS Film 1068836


Marriage: 22 Feb 1814 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
John Ratcliffe - of Higher Booths within this Chapelry
Alice Holt - of Higher Booths within this Chapelry
Witness: Thos Wilding; John Butterworth, (X)
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: J Quartley Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Entry 113
Source: LDS Film 1068836


Marriage: 6 Jul 1815 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Richard Ashworth - of Higher Booths in this Chapelry
Ellen Holt - (X), of Higher Booths
Witness: James Wilkinson; Thos Wilding
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: Wm Grey Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Entry 232
Source: LDS Film 1068836


Marriage: 20 Jan 1816 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
John Ashworth - of Higher Booths
Mary Holt - of Higher Booths
Witness: Cable Ashworth; John Heyworth
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: Wm Grey Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Entry 290
Source: LDS Film 1068836


Marriage: 18 Jan 1818 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
John Holt - of Higher Booths
Mary Clayton - (X), of Higher Booths
Witness: James Holt; John Twisse
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: Wm Grey Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Entry 439
Source: LDS Film 1068836

Marriage: 23 Mar 1818 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
John Holt - (X), of Higher Booths
Alice Taylor - (X), of Higher Booths
Witness: Willm Roscow; Thos Wilding
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: Wm Grey Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Entry 456
Source: LDS Film 1068836


Marriage: 4 Jul 1818 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Richard Holt - (X), of Higher Booths
Alice Nuttall - (X), of Higher Booths
Witness: Richard Holt; Abraham Holt
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: Wm Grey Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Entry 486
Source: LDS Film 1068836


Marriage: 1 May 1819 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Lawrence Holt - (X), of Higher Booths
Mary Hudson - (X), of Higher Booths
Witness: L Nuttall; James Maden
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: William Grey Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Entry 592
Source: LDS Film 1068836


Marriage: 23 Aug 1819 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Joseph Driver - (X), of Hapton in the Chapelry of Padiham
Anne Holt - (X), of Higher Booths in this Chapelry
Witness: Peter Sale; John Driver
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: William Grey Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Entry 613
Source: LDS Film 1068836


Marriage: 9 Jul 1820 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
John Bertwissle - (X), of Higher Booths
Betty Holt - (X), of Higher Booths
Witness: James Bertwissle; Henry Taylor
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: William Grey Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Entry 715
Source: LDS Film 1068836


Marriage: 2 Apr 1821 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Charles Seeney - of Higher Booths
Millicent Holt - (X), of Higher Booths
Witness: James Ashworth; John Seeney
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: William Grey Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Entry 787
Source: LDS Film 1068836


All from http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Aug 2012 18:05

The rest of the family in 1841:

1841 England Census
about Margaret Trickel Name: Margaret Trickel
[Margaret Tricket]
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Whalley
Hundred: Blackburn (Higher Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Rossendale
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 506
Book: 11
Folio: 12
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
James Trickel 40
Peggy Trickel 40
John Trickel 19
Betty Trickel 15
Robert Trickel 15
Sarah Trickel 14
Alice Trickel 8
James Trickel 6
Margaret Trickel 4
Ann Trickel 2



Mark

Mark Report 14 Aug 2012 18:05

Alviegal

I was thinking that sorry.....

jansmith

jansmith Report 14 Aug 2012 18:05

Yes Mark that is the 1841 census details from FMP site

Mark

Mark Report 14 Aug 2012 18:03

??

Margaret Holt married Trickett in 1821

so .. Children would be Trickett and not Holt or am i missing something Jan sorry

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Aug 2012 18:01

Here is the possible baptism.

Baptisms: 13 Aug 1789 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Peggy Holt - Daughter of Charles Holt & Mary
Abode: Hutchbank
Source: LDS Film 1068835


EDIT if she was born 1897, this is wrong.

Mark

Mark Report 14 Aug 2012 18:00

Jan was this the 1841 census to find for myself or could you copy and paste link please

jansmith

jansmith Report 14 Aug 2012 17:57

It is Richards Christening and mother Peggy

Mark

Mark Report 14 Aug 2012 17:53

i think 14 was legal age in those days correct me if i am wrong

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Aug 2012 17:52

Marriage: 8 Sep 1821 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
James Trickett - (X), of Higher Booths
Peggy Holt - (X), of Higher Booths
Witness: John Ashworth; Abram Holt
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: William Grey Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1822, Entry 825
Source: LDS Film 1068836

I would think they were both very young if they had parents' consent.

Mark

Mark Report 14 Aug 2012 17:49

ok.......

So you think possibly Richard Trickett is who ...... father to James

jansmith

jansmith Report 14 Aug 2012 17:48

??
child: Richard Trickett
name: Richard Trickett
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Jul 1825
baptism/christening place: NEWCHURCH IN ROSSENDALE,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
mother's name: Peggy Trickett
indexing project (batch) number: C00561-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 950393

if this is the Peggy could this be Richard in 1841 with Holt family? grandparents?
RG number: HO107
Piece: 509
Book/Folio: 8/15
Page: 22
Reg. District: Haslingden
Sub District: Newchurch
Parish: Whalley
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Hill House Barn, Whalley, Newchurch
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HOLT, John M 71 1770 Lancashire
HOLT, Mary F 64 1777 Lancashire
HOLT, John M 30 1811 Lancashire
WILLIAMS, Watkin M 28 1813
TRICKET, Richard M 17 1824 Lancashire

Astra

Astra Report 14 Aug 2012 17:44

I'm looking to see what she gives as her birthplace so needed to know if it is the correct family

Mark

Mark Report 14 Aug 2012 17:40

Yes thats right Astra - i have those details thanks

Astra

Astra Report 14 Aug 2012 17:37

is this them

TRICKET, James Head Married M 52 1799 Farmer
Higher Booths, Lancashire VIEW
TRICKET, Margaret Wife Married F 54 1797
Higher Booths, Lancashire VIEW
TRICKET, John Son Unmarried M 28 1823 Bleacher
Higher Booths, Lancashire VIEW
TRICKET, Betty Daughter Unmarried F 27 1824 Weaver
Higher Booths, Lancashire VIEW
TRICKET, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 26 1825 Weaver
Higher Booths, Lancashire VIEW
TRICKET, Hannah Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831 Weaver
Higher Booths, Lancashire VIEW
TRICKET, Alice Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834 Weaver
Higher Booths, Lancashire VIEW
TRICKET, James Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Bleacher
Higher Booths, Lancashire VIEW
TRICKET, Margaret Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Weaver
Higher Booths, Lancashire VIEW
TRICKET, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 11 1840 Scholar
Higher Booths, Lancashire VIEW
TRICKET, Ruth Daughter Unmarried F 8 1843 Scholar
Higher Booths, Lancashire VIEW

Piece: 2249 Folio: 5 Page: 2 Registration District: Haslingden Civil Parish: Higher Booths Municipal Borough: Address: Fair Banks, Higher Booths County: Lancashire