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Does it say whether M Hodges is related at all?

Orlando Powell died 15 Mar 1915 at 33, New Bedford Road, Luton, Bedfordshire. The cert shows that M. Hodges was present at time of his death. Any ideas how I can find out who this person was? App there was no voters register at this time due to the war-time.

Rootgatherer

Yes, I am trying to work out if she was my gt grandfather's illegitimate child. As far as I can see all Martha's sisters would have been living at home.

Sorry Anthony, I thought you were trying to trace the child, Caroline.

My apologies. The question was where Martha was residing at the time of the court hearing not the child? I will certainly double check the sisters' marriages again. Thanks.

If the child was living with Martha's sister in Essex, then presumably it would be a married sister? Have you followed the marriages of Martha's sisters - just in the hope that Caroline is lurking under a different name on the census?

1881 - for Martha's sisters

Name: Martha Reeves
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Reeves
Mother's name: Jane E. Reeves
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green

Civil parish: Leyton Low
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: General Shop
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1727
Folio: 83
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
James Reeves 44
Jane E. Reeves 42
Jane Reeves 19
James Reeves 17
Maryann Reeves 16
Martha Reeves 14
Lydia Reeves 12
Christiana Reeves 10
Jessie Reeves 7
Louise Reeves 5
Thomas Reeves 3
Alice Reeves 2

1891

Name: Martha E Reeves
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Jane E Reeves
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England

Civil parish: Leyton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1348
Folio: 104
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Jane E Reeves 52
Margann Reeves 26
Martha E Reeves 24
Christiana C Reeves 20
Jepe A Reeves 17
Louie H Reeves 15
Alice E Reeves 11
John F Reeves 8
Alice I Tong 4

ChristinaS

It was Statford Police Court 01 Jan 1892. It gave their names and his profession. The sex, age or name of the child was not mentioned. When questioned by the magistrate as to where she was living she said with her sister in Leyton. The 1891 census had Martha living in Leyton with her mother Jane E Reeve, as well as a number of her siblings.

What information does it give in the Reynolds' Newspaper article?

Does it give the name of the court? Or childs birth date?

If not, it may be worth looking at the bastardy records (if they still exist) for more detail.

Anthony,

So this is the same child mentioned in the link I gave you above. Did you look at it?
I'm interested to know if you think it looks like the mother was 12 years old. Do you suppose it should be 1868 and not 1878?

Jax

Yes I see what you mean, the chidren are only referred to by their sex. I hadn't noticed that or the heading of the column with the names; that does say 'parent' I wonder where the printed report gets Martha from?

I note that the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 has reference of Caroline's registration 1st quarter of 1890 at Bethnal Green ref 1c281 as referred to by Catherine. I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and send off for a copy of the cert even though it may be a waste of money? Thanks for your patience.

Although that baptiism gives the mother as Martha, there is no mention of her on the image??

The list of names including the name Caroline on the baptism are the mothers...not the children by the looks of it, as every name is female even though some of the children were male

This may have been it...I did'nt notice the title of this one, only that the other one Was titled Orlando Powell

Christina

Just logged in. Thank you for you tips.

Thanks, jax..........

What happened to the thread with the title in CAPS?

The numbers were added today Reggie

If you are claiming you can't remember posting before, why does this thread have the suffix 2 in the title?

This is what I'm looking at:

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Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Name: Workhouses and Institutions, 1887-1891
Record Type: Religious Creed
Year Range: 1887-1891
Source Information
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Record URL: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?h=2792200&db=LMApoorlaw&indiv=try

What it is you have that shows Martha and Caroline? I can't find it. The only Reeves I can see for 13th March 1890 is female born illegitamately in this house to Carole Reeves of 5, Hay Nicholl Street born 1878. Both discharged 29/3/1890

That's what it looks like to me, but that can't be right, as it makes the mother 12 years old.

This is from the Poor Law Records for Bethnal Green (religious creed) on Ancestry.


It's okay - I can see now that it came from London Births and Baptism.

So the entry in the workhouse book doesn't really make any sense.

The London Metropolitan Archives holds some records for Bethnal Green Workhouse.

Update request on old thread
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1239326?page=1

Re Catherine's find, I have done searches on Ancestry for Caroline Reeves born c 13 March 1890 and apart from the original reference doc of Bethnal Green Workhouse, I have not found any further record. Could anyone please advise me if it is possible to search for the census of the workhouse as opposed for an individual and where one can examine the actual workhouse records. Thank you.