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Lily burgum born 1885 sheffield.

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Janette

Janette Report 6 Nov 2012 18:57

Hi can you please help. im trying to find a marriage for Lily burgum born 1885 sheffield.on the 1911 census shes living at court 10 hs 2 spring street sheffield.head of the house is walter ledwood born 1884 wife lily ledwood born 1885,who i think is lily burgum,the others in the house are burgum and mother mary burgum.i have looked on free bmd but can only find a lily ashforth and walter ledwood,could she have been married before.please help thanks
janette.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Nov 2012 19:09

Hello Janette - were there no possible previous marriages coming up for Lily Burgum?

There's also a chance they may not actually have been married.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 6 Nov 2012 19:11

Looks like Burgum is her maiden name:

1901 England Census
about Lily Burgeen Name: Lily Burgeen
[Lily Burgum]
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George H Burgeen
Mother's name: Mary Burgeen
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Brightside Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Pitsmoor Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: West Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Piece: 4375
Folio: 117
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
George H Burgeen 38
Mary Burgeen 36
Lily Burgeen 16
George W Burgeen 12
Walter J Burgeen 9
Alfred Burgeen 6
Ivy Burgeen 4
Arthur Burgeen 2



K

K Report 6 Nov 2012 19:12

Looks like Lily was born an Ashforth pre her mother's marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
ASHFORTH Mary Sheffield 9c 622
BURGUM George Harry Sheffield 9c 622
Elwood John Charles Sheffield 9c 622
MUNRO Amelia Sheffield 9c 622

Andrew

Andrew Report 6 Nov 2012 19:12

1901 census for Mary and family

1901 England Census
about Arthur Burgeen
Name: Arthur Burgeen
[Arthur Burgum]
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George H Burgeen
Mother's name: Mary Burgeen
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Brightside Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Pitsmoor Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: West Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Piece: 4375
Folio: 117
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
George H Burgeen 38
Mary Burgeen 36
Lily Burgeen 16
George W Burgeen 12
Walter J Burgeen 9
Alfred Burgeen 6
Ivy Burgeen 4
Arthur Burgeen 2




Marriage for George and Mary Ashforth in 1887. after birth of Lily in 1885

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
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ASHFORTH Mary Sheffield 9c 622
BURGUM George Harry Sheffield 9c 622


Andy

K

K Report 6 Nov 2012 19:13

Lily

Sep 1884 (>99%)
Ashforth Lily Sheffield 9c 438

Gee

Gee Report 6 Nov 2012 19:14

Did she go overseas?


Queensland, Australia, Passenger Lists, 1848-1912
about Lily Burgum
Name: Lily Burgum
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1885
Place of Origin: England
Ship Name: Essex
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: Brisbane
Arrival Date: 9 Sep 1911

Janette

Janette Report 6 Nov 2012 19:15

hi
yes her maiden name was burgum,no i could not find any marriage in the name burgum.its a bit puzzerling thanks
janette.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 6 Nov 2012 19:17

Aha! Born before George & Mary's marriage so her legal name was Ashforth:

Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
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ASHFORTH Mary Sheffield 9c 622
BURGUM George Harry Sheffield 9c 622

Edit: Should have refreshed before I added my post. K beat me to it by a mile!

Janette

Janette Report 6 Nov 2012 19:26

hi i dont know if lily went over seas but it looks like she might have.lilys mothers maiden name was bramhall so did she marry ashforth then a burgum?

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 6 Nov 2012 19:27

Have to say Margee, your g-grandfather wins Movember hands down :-)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 6 Nov 2012 19:30

Marriages Mar 1884 (>99%)
Ashforth William Sheffield 9c 562
Bingham Elizabeth Sheffield 9c 562
BRAMHALL Mary Sheffield 9c 562
Shipman Benjamin Sheffield 9c 562


Maybe??

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Nov 2012 19:34

Re: the 1911 arrival in Australia - above.

That lady was Lilian Burgum (a domestic) when she left Liverpool. She was with a Timothy Burgum, a blacksmith.

This would be them on the 1911, in Gloucestershire:
BURGUM, Timothy Head Widower M 68 1843 Blacksmith Little Dean Parish in The
BURGUM, Lilian Daughter Single F 26 1885 County of Gloucestershire

So, I reckon we can eliminate them.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Nov 2012 19:36

??

Deaths Sep 1884 (>99%)

Ashforth William 21 Sheffield 9c 293

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 6 Nov 2012 19:39

Hey Jude! Never thought of gt. grandad being a Movember canditate. He would be in the winner's circle, wouldn't he?

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 6 Nov 2012 19:40

Yes Prickles - saw this - black widow maybe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Janette

Janette Report 6 Nov 2012 19:43

does that mean william ashforth married and died the same year 1884 thanks

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 6 Nov 2012 19:48

Janette - it is possible. The only way of being sure would be to purchase both certificates

Margee - absolutely!!

Janette

Janette Report 6 Nov 2012 19:50

ok thank you every one

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Nov 2012 19:55

It all seems to fit Janette........... :-)