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Hi can anyone help,Im trying to find out what happened to my maternal grandfather ,i have a marriage cert for him in 1917 marrying Mary Ellen McIntyre at St Marys Cathedral in Newcastle Upon Tyne,I also have a Marriage cert for Mary E McIntyre remarrying again to Walter Freeman in Newcastle registry office in 1940,however can find no trace of my grandfather .would appreciate help.Thanks .

Born when?

Why would the woman re-marry in her maiden name?

You refer to marriage certs......do you have the actual documents, or do you mean the GRO index?

If you have the actual certs...what is the woman's declared marital status in 1940?

And what was John T's father's name?

Only one child of the 1917 marriage

Births Mar 1918 (>99%)
Prest Catherine McIntyre Newcastle T. 10b 157

Thanks for your reply,I asked myself same question why she would use maiden

name for 2nd marriage
I have both the certificates issued by Newcastle registrars office,on the the 1940 one marital status declared as spinster.

yes the one child Catherine was my mother .

Any chance of the info I requested about John?

I'm assuming the woman's age and father's details tallied on both certs?

Yes everything checks out ,

Why have you 'marked as answered'?

Why haven't you given the man's AGE?

And how do you know where he was born?

Wherever Sessay may be,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

OK.....found him myself!!

1911 England Census about John Thomas Prest
Name: John Thomas Prest
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Sessay, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Ripon
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Water Skellgate Ripon
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Labourer Lime Quarry's
Registration district: Ripon
Registration District Number: 487
Sub-registration district: Ripon
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 25855
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Prest 48
Margerest Prest 36
John Thomas Prest 16
Mary Selena Prest 15
William James Prest 11
Annie Victoria Prest 10
Margeret Alice Prest 6
Mabel May Prest 3
Charles Herbert Prest 1
Prest 3 Days (Daughter)

This looks like his death:-

PREST, J T

Rank: Private
Service No: 24624
Date of Death: 13/04/1918
Age: 23
Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)
49th Bn.

Grave Reference
IX. E. 26.
Cemetery
MENDINGHEM MILITARY CEMETERY
Additional Information:

Son of Thomas and Margaret Prest, of Ripon; husband of Elizabeth Prest, of 2, Skellyard, Skellgarths, Ripon.

The only thing that doesn't match up is that his wife was called Elizabeth according to this.

Seems he died just a few weeks after your mother was born and they were married for no more than a year. Perhaps because they were married for such a short time his wife felt more comfortable using her maiden name.

You can order his death certificate using the following details (although the death certificate isn't likely to give any more information than the Commonwealth War Graves site information above):-


Name: PREST, John T
Unit: Machine Gun Corps
Rank: Private
Number: 24624
Year: 1918
Volume: M.5
Page: 115
Record source: GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 to 1921)

Kath. x

This looks like your grandfather in the 1901 census:-

1901 census transcription details for: 26, King George Street, Middlesbrough

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4580
Folio: 12
Page: 16
Reg. District: Middlesbrough
Sub District: Middlesbrough
Parish: Middlesbrough
Enum. District: 49
Ecclesiastical District: St Cuthbert Middlesbrough
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 26, King George Street, Middlesbrough
County: Yorkshire (North riding)

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

PREST, Thomas Head Married M 36 1865 Furnace Labourer
Eldmire
PREST, Margaret Wife Married F 26 1875
Sowerby, Yorkshire
PREST, John T Son Single M 6 1895
Sessay<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
PREST, Mary S Daughter Single F 5 1896
Sessay
PREST, William J Son Single M 1 1900
Middlesbrough, Yorkshire
PREST, Victoria A Daughter Single F 0 (1 MOS) 1901
Middlesbrough, Yorkshire

Kath. x

Message sent to Maureen that her grandfather's death has been found, just in case she wasn't coming back to this thread as she marked it as answered.

Kath. x

I looked at that one..........but it would mean that he was a bigamist............

Son of Thomas and Margaret Prest, of Ripon; husband of *****Elizabeth Prest, of 2, Skellyard, Skellgarths, Ripon.

*******NOT Mary Ellen of Newcastle on Tyne

Which could of course explain the woman remarrying in her maiden name

Marriages Mar 1918 (>99%)

Bogg Elizabeth Prest Hull 9d 510
PREST John T Bogg Hull 9d 510

It's virtually the same address given on the CWGC record as on the 1911 census record you found Reggie.

It is a sad story either way as he died very soon after Catherine was born and very soon after this second marriage if it is the same person.

Some sad stories and marriage break ups in that period.

Kath. x

Thank you Reggie and Kathleen for all your help i really appreciate that you spent
your time to assist me in my search. :-)