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elizabeth collins where did she go

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Gins Report 17 Nov 2012 14:07

Hi Sandra

I sent you a PM yesterday, explaining how you get back to this thread as I noticed it was your first post on here

You've opened the message but as you have not acknowledge that or the help that has been given on this thread, I presume you are having difficulty getting back here?

I'll get Cynthia to send you instructions, she's better than me at explaining!


Sandra Report 18 Nov 2012 07:12

Thankyou I think!!!! this gets very confusing the rweason being is when we found Elizabeth living with yhe coppins this is actually my fathers cousins name so are we presuming a little cousin on cousin, i am so confused cheers Sandi ;-)


Gins Report 18 Nov 2012 09:05

Coppins.........where have you found Elizabeth living with this family?

It seems clear that she left her family and took up with John Brock, never married him and died under her married name Collins



ChristinaS Report 18 Nov 2012 11:50

This is the Elizabeth Collins that Sandra is referring to, in 1911:

Name: Elizabeth Collins
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Barry, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Wavertree
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 31 Bagot St Wavertree Lpool
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Shop Assistant

Samuel Coffing
Sarah Coffing
Dorothy Man Coffing
Margery Emma Coffing
Elizabeth Collins
Beatrice Pownall


Gins Report 18 Nov 2012 12:19

Thank you Christina

I'm sure the lady above is a different person, is also shown as born in Bury, heres her birth

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elizabeth Collins
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1877
Registration district: Bury
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 589

.........and her death? Wavertree was abolished 1.4.1922 to become part of the parish of Liverpool.

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Elizabeth Collins
Birth Date: abt 1876
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1930
Age at Death: 54
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 276

Probate shows her a wife of Patrick Collins, so it might not be the right death.

And she shows on all the censuses with parents James & Susan*

Heres another birth for John Brock and Elizabeth showing that she is still in Salford in 1912

Births Mar 1912
BROCK Edith M Warriner Salford 8d 208

Aww bless

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Edith M Brock
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1912
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1912
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Salford
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 117


Sandra Report 30 Nov 2012 08:45

Thankyou i thought it was copping not coffings