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Cherilyn
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5 Dec 2012 01:09 |
you're welcome
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Mark
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3 Dec 2012 13:16 |
Just seen new info much appreciated peeps
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Cherilyn
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3 Dec 2012 09:06 |
This is a very interesting article from The Advertiser. I am thinking this George is another uncle, ie son of Mary, brother of Martin & Bill. Turns out they were originally from SA (though you probably know that!)
The Advertiser, Monday 10 February 1947, p.4 West Coast Stalwarts ON Saturday morning, thanks to Mr. Ted Burford. formerly of Fowler's Bay, I had an interesting session with three well-known West Coasters, in Adelaide for the fourth test match. They were George Patrick Mahar, JP. of Bookabie, W. A. Roberts, of Penong, and Cyril C. Murray, of old Penong station. This stout-hearted trio fills one with admiration for the people who went out and pioneered that country. Mr. Mahar, man of many parts at Bookabie, told me he was born at Elliston, and was five when his parents, Mr. and Mrs. George Mahar, went in a spring dray to Bookabie in 1892 "to get away from the rabbits." His father, inciden- tally, made all the dry-stone walls around Elliston, was the local champion and once put up eight chains in a day. "We only had a small block at Bookabie originally," George Mahar said. "In 1910 the others went to the West to settle at Wickepin, and left me home. They even took the cart we arrived in. Brother Bill had a three-furrow plough shipped to Eucla, and pulled it behind a cart to the Fraser Range. Martin, who must have picked up a spring dray, went earlier. "I once pushed a bike to Port Lincoln, shipped it to Port Adelaide, where I joined the Mooltan for Fremantle, saw my people, and rode it back to Bookabie via the goldfields." Mr. Mahar has about 80.000 acres now. It is 11-inch rainfall country and wheatgrowing is precarious. He can only raise catch crops. Getting His Bearings GEORGE Mahar jocularly said that his biggest trouble not being used to cities, was that he had to go to the GPO several times a day to get his bearings. He has been chairman of the Fowler's Bay Vermin Board for 10 years, and is an official scalp collector: told me he passed a rider on the netting fence who brought in about 80 wild dog scalps, worth 12/6 each—two years' accumulation. They have paid up to £15 for a troublesome dog.
also www.australiancemeteries.com/sa/yalata/bookabiedata1.htm
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Cherilyn
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3 Dec 2012 08:33 |
Old Wickepin burials www.chapelhill.homeip.net/FamilyHistory/Photos/Wickepin-old-WA/MI.html
Marriages Jun 1918 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keeler Reginald J Mackerel Loddon 4b 423 Mackerel Mildred Keeler Loddon 4b 423
Births Sep 1888 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KEELER Reginald John Depwade 4b 233 [son of John & Martha]
Births Jun 1890 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mackerell Mildred Loddon 4b 220 [daughter of Wm & Beatrice]
Mildred & Reginald grew up in the same area (Thurton). I am convinced that Mildred KEELER, who married George MAHAR, was their daughter.
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Cherilyn
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3 Dec 2012 01:48 |
Thanks, Trudieanne :-)
Lots of good work done here already. Very difficult to find children born this 'recently'. This newspaper article from NLA Trove mentions George; sadly it is the death of his younger brother Albert John (b. 1913) (given name incorrect in report): The West Australian, Thursday 21 March 1929 ACCIDENTS. THROWN FROM HORSE. A Boy Killed. WICKEPIN, March 20— Alfred John Mahar (16), son of Mr. Martin Mahar. a contractor, met with a riding accident on Friday last, and died from his injuries last night. Deceased was in the employ of Mr. Sam Collingwood, a farmer of Malyalling, and after tea on Friday he left on horseback for his uncle's farm about five miles away. There he met his elder brother, George, and remained until 11 p.m., when he started for Mr. Collingwood's. His brother, who works on the property of Mr. Frank Forbes, left half an hour after wards, following the same road. At a gateway about a 100 yards from the house, he found his brother lying unconscious on the road. He returned for assistance. Mr. Forbes at once sent his motor car, and the lad was brought into the Wickepin Memorial Hospital. Two doctors performed an operation on Monday evening, but the lad did not regain consciousness. His horse was found the following morning with marks on its knees and hide, as if it had fallen.
Note it also mentions an uncle on a nearby farm. I wonder if that was William MAHAR? He is the one listed in the cemetery above as husband of Mildred, and she is the Mildred listed above him as wife of Bill. Bit of confusion, but Wm MAHAR actually married 'Millie' KEELER in 1929 in Williams district! My guess is that this was her 2nd marriage, as there are three KEELER enlistments for young men born in Wickepin in the 1920s with next of kin as Mildred MAHAR or W MAHAR. It is very possible (in fact I'd bet money on it) that 'your' George's Mildred (b. 1921) was her daughter. I suspect her first husband was the Reginald John KEELER who died in Wickepin in 1927, aged 39.
George's parents were Martin MAHAR and Janet Reed CURRIE, who married in Williams district in 1909. George (b. 1910) was about 10 years older than his wife Mildred (b. 1921). George's siblings: Myrtle Irene 1911, m. Clifford Bruce LAWRENCE (Cliff) 1933, d. 10/8/2002 Northam aged 90 Albert John (Bert) b. 1913, d. 1929 Wickepin aged 16 John Patrick (Jack) b. 1915, d.18/11/ 1969 Wickepin aged 54 Francis Edgar (Frank) 1917 Vic., MIA 1942 (WWII) Wm Cyril (Bill) b. 1920, m. Edith I EWEN 1943 Elsie Mary 1922, m. David Wm BARBER (Bill) 1949, d 16/3/2009 Armadale aged 86 Vera F 1926, m. George T BLACK 1951 Martin Leslie 1928, d. 1928 as Leslie Martin Ruby Eileen 1931, m. Edward Lisle ENGLISH 1957
The Mary MAHAR who died in 1923 was George's grandmother; his father's mum: The West Australian, Wednesday 20 June 1923 MAHAR.—On May 21, at the Wickepin Hospital, Mrs. Mary Mahar, the beloved mother of Martin, Mary, Bill, and George, aged 76 years.
This adds credence to the theory that William (Bill) was Martin's brother (i.e. 'your' George's uncle).
WWII enlistments: MAHAR WILLIAM CYRIL : Service Number - WX5685 : Date of birth - 11 May 1919 : Place of birth - WICKEPIN WA : Place of enlistment - NORTHAM WA : Next of Kin - MAHER EDITH MAHAR JOHN PATRICK : Service Number - WX791 : Date of birth - 28 Aug 1914 : Place of birth - WICKEPIN WA : Place of enlistment - NORTHAM WA : Next of Kin - MAHAR J MAHAR FRANCIS EDGAR : Service Number - WX5154 : Date of birth - 08 Dec 1917 : Place of birth - PRESTON : Place of enlistment - CLAREMONT WA : Next of Kin - MAHER JANET
The West Australian, Thursday 31 July 1952 IN MEMORIAM. On Service. MAHAR, Francis (WX5154): In proud and loving memory of our darling Frank, missing Ruin Ridge, July 27, 1942, loving son of Martin and Janet. fond brother of George, Myrtle, Bert (deceased), Jack, Bill, Elsie, Vera, Lesley (deceased) and Ruby. Brother in-law of Millie, Cliff, Edith, Bill, George, uncle of...[omitted]. Sweet are the memories silently kept, Of one we loved and will never forget.
This last was a surprise find as he was born in Victoria! Almost missed him. But the above notice lists his neices and nephews names (which I have omitted as they are living) and this has allowed me to find one of them...I will send by PM for privacy reasons.
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trudianne
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2 Dec 2012 04:17 |
Hi Mark,
If you go to Cherilyn's thread given above, she may be able to help you further. She has access to a number of W.A. sites.
Remember, to mention this thread so she doesn't duplicate what you already have been given.
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1 Dec 2012 18:08 |
Don't know if this helps or not
Internments at Wickepin Cemetery Wickepin Shire, Wheatbelt Region, Western Australia
>>MAHAR, George Martin, 70 years, 28 Jul 80, - Roman Cath Grave No. 2.30 xx MAHAR, Janet Reed, 73 years, 14 Jun 61, Wife of Martin, - Roman Cath Grave No. 1.22 xx MAHAR, Martin, 91 years, 3 Sep 70, Husband of Janet, - Roman Cath Grave No. 2.49 MAHAR, Mary, 76 years, 20 May 23, - Old MAHAR, Mildred, 85 years, 2 Jun 75, Wife of Bill, - Roman Cath Grave No. 2.31 MAHAR, William Joseph, 88 years, 18 Jul 73, Husband of Mildred, Father of Reginald, Edna, Mildred, Kenneth, John, Roy, Florence, Ursula, Martin, Alfred & Herbert, - Roman Cath Grave No. 2.29
http://goo.gl/fsVQR
It could mean that the Martin who appears on the ER is George's father, rather than his son. MichaelMahar61's tree does give Martin Mahar and Janet Reid Currie as George's parents.
There is a contact email address for the contibutor
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1 Dec 2012 17:52 |
If you know the names of other children, they may be listed on the ER, but they'd have to be over 21.
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1 Dec 2012 17:45 |
Have search on http://trove.nla.gov.au/
There might be birth announcements for the some of the children
Western Australian Archives don't help with births etc. BIRTHS (1841-1932) DEATHS (1841-1971) MARRIAGES (1841-1936)
Even though George's death is outside the search parameter, you might be able to order it. it should show the names of his children (as known to the informant)
http://goo.gl/d8J5Y
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Mark
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1 Dec 2012 17:38 |
Would it help if i send you a pm with the other names i have
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1 Dec 2012 17:37 |
Sorry - no relationships or ages shown on the ER, only names, occupations, and address.
Names are listed alphabetically by surname, so its not easy finding out other people/different surnames, living at the same address.
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Mark
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1 Dec 2012 17:36 |
Yes i believe i had made contact with this person my messages get opened but ignored for some reason...
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1 Dec 2012 17:34 |
do you have access to Ancestry? Do you know tree owner: MichaelMahar61? It might be worth sending him a message. He was active on the site 2 days ago.
His tree shows 4 'living' children. 1 female, 3 male. He 'might' be one of the males.
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Mark
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1 Dec 2012 17:33 |
Thanks +++DetEcTive+++ Is there any indication as to married, single or widowed
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1 Dec 2012 17:27 |
Hmm
Mildred Mahar Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1958 State: Western Australia District: Canning Subdistrict: Williams
Home Duties living at 'Dead Finish', Malyalling, but no one else with the same surname at the address.
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Mark
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1 Dec 2012 17:17 |
She died in 2010 so not sure
Shown above with brother and a son
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1 Dec 2012 17:15 |
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 George Martin Mahar Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1980 State: Western Australia District: O'Connor Subdistrict: Narrogin
Address – Mayling 6370 occ farmer. With the same surname tt the same address Martin Mahar - farmer
George Martin Mahar Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1968 State: Western Australia District: Canning Subdistrict: Williams Address Mayling, same occupation with Martin.
Same again in 1972. In 1977, there is
George Martin Mahar, Martin Mahar Denis John Mahar, a student
No relationships given, but may be a clue.
Where's Mildred?
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Mark
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1 Dec 2012 17:03 |
I didnt see but thank you.....
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1 Dec 2012 17:00 |
From a tree on Ancestry, which you probably have already
Mildred KEELER Birth 04 Oct 1921 in Narrogin, Western Australia Death 08 Mar 2010 in Narrogin, Western Australia
1941 29 Apr Age: 19 Marriage to George Martin MAHAR Narrogin, Western Australia
George Martin MAHAR Birth 09 May 1910 in Wickepin Western Australia Death 28 Jul 1980 in Narrogin, Western Australia
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 George Martin Mahar [Goerge Martin Mahar] Death Place: Western Australia Age: 70 Father's Name: Martin Mother's Name: Janet Reid Registration Year: 1980 Registration Place: Williams, Western Australia Registration number: 52/80/f Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
A 'Story' attached to George states "Dad wanted to join the army with his brothers Bill Jack and Frank. But under war time regulations he was regarded as essential services (farmer) and was not accepted"
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Mark
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1 Dec 2012 16:40 |
Thank you all for your help so far......had to unexpectedly go out so sorry about that......
Interested in information on the children of George Martin Mahar 1910-1980 and Mildred Keeler 1921-2010
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