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Derek

Derek Report 28 Dec 2012 10:31

hello all
i am looking for charles greening who i think was my father. i do have his marriage certificate to my mother in 1913 he was then 24 years old and his fathers name was abraham greening.I can not find him on any census that relates to him before his marrage to my mother and i would appreciate any help that anyone can give me.
Derek Greening

patchem

patchem Report 28 Dec 2012 10:34

What were the occupations, addresses, etc on the marriage certificate for all of them?
Thank-you

Added:
Sorry,
Welcome to the boards!

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Dec 2012 10:41

Welcome Derek, can you give us your mothers name please and an area.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Dec 2012 10:44

Area of marriage? Its the only one in 1913 on Freebmd

Marriages Dec 1913 (>99%)
Greening Charles Pearce Edmonton 3a 1011
Pearce Agnes Greening Edmonton 3a 1011

patchem

patchem Report 28 Dec 2012 10:45

Was he father alive at marriage?
Deaths Mar 1898
Greening Abraham 49 Camberwell 1d 596

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Dec 2012 10:45

Who witnessed the marriage?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Dec 2012 10:48

Is this the marriage please?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Charles Greening
Name: Charles Greening
Spouse Surname: Pearce
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 1011

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Dec 2012 10:48

You say you 'think' this man was your father.............is he named on your birth cert?

freebmd records several Greening/Pearce births.........and more than one marriage for the name combination

Flip

Flip Report 28 Dec 2012 10:48

Charles Greening <<Tiler of 26 Kirkdale ave
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Age: 24
Spouse Name: Agnes Pearce
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Dec 1913
Parish: Tottenham St Philip the Apostle
Borough: Haringey
Father Name: Abraham Greening <<deceased builder
Spouse Father Name: David Pearce
Register Type: Parish Register

I'll take a look at the image for witnesses etc

Witnesses Arthur Charles Barnes, George Greening and F Pearce.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Dec 2012 10:49

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Charles Greening
Charles Greening - occupation Tiler
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Age: 24
Spouse Name: Agnes Pearce
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Dec 1913
Parish: Tottenham St Philip the Apostle
Borough: Haringey
Father Name: Abraham Greening - Deceased Builder
Spouse Father Name: David Pearce
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses -
Arthur Charles Barnes
George Greening
F Pearce

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 28 Dec 2012 10:51

Charles not listed in 1891

Census 1891:

Address: 11, Willowbrook Road, Camberwell, PeckhamCounty: London

GREENING, Abraham Head Married M 42 1849 House Decorator
Bristol, Gloucestershire<<<<<<<
GREENING, Sarah Wife Married F 40 1851 Bristol, Gloucestershire
GREENING, Abraham Son Single M 19 1872 Railway Engine Cleaner
Bristol, Gloucestershire
GREENING, Albert Son Single M 17 1874 Tin Plate Worker
Bristol, Gloucestershire
GREENING, William Son Single M 15 1876 Painters Labourer Bristol, Gloucestershire
GREENING, Sarah Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire
GREENING, James Son M 10 1881 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire
GREENING, Thomas Son M 8 1883 ScholarBristol, Gloucestershire
GREENING, Ann Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire
GREENING, Issac Son M 5 1886 Bristol, Gloucestershire
GREENING, Mary A Daughter F 3 1888 Peckham, London
GREENING, George Son M 7 1884 Peckham, London

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Dec 2012 10:52

this looks lile the one who died in 1898 no Charles with the family

Name: Abraham Greening
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Greening
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Camden
Town: Peckham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:11 Birkbeck Terrace Mellowbrook Road

Occupation:House decorator

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 474
Folio: 58
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Abraham Greening 42
Sarah Greening 40
Abraham Greening 19
Albert Greening 17
William Greening 15
Sarah Greening 13
James Greening 10
Thomas Greening 8
Ann Greening 6
Isaac Greening 5
Mary A Greening 5
George Greening 1

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 474; Folio: 58; Page: 44; GSU roll: 6095584.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 28 Dec 2012 10:53

Snap with Shirley!

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 28 Dec 2012 10:55

This one is a bit older, did he fib about age on marriage cert? Wrong occupation though.

Census 1911

Reg. District: Edmonton
Sub District: Hornsey
Parish: Hornsey
Enum. District: 7

Address: 133 Sydney Road Hornsey N County: Middlesex

LOVESEY, William Head Single M 33 1878 House Agent And Builder Strand London
, Louisa Sister Single F 29 1882 Holborn
, Ada Single F 24 1887 Clapham
GREENING, Charles Boarder Single M 29 1882 House Agent Strand<<<<<

patchem

patchem Report 28 Dec 2012 10:55

Did George dislike his name and become Charles?

Added:
Probably not:
George Greening
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1951
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 1849

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Dec 2012 10:58

It could be the right family though as one of the marriage witnesses is a George Greening

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 28 Dec 2012 11:01

George a chauffeur in Camberwell in 1911:

Reg. District: Camberwell
Sub District: Camberwell North
Parish: Camberwell
Enum. District: 31

Address: 179 Choumert Road Peckham S E County: London

GREENING, Sarah Head Widow F 60 1851 Bristol St Judes
GREENING, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 23 1888 London Peckham
GREENING, George Son Single M 21 1890 Chauffeur London Peckham

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Dec 2012 11:01

Name: Sarah Greening
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol St Judes
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints North Peckham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 2 willowbrook road

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 213
Piece: 512
Folio: 117
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Greening 50
Sarah Greening 23
James Greening 20
Annie Greening 16
Isaacs Greening 15
Mary Greening 13
George Greening 11

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 512; Folio: 117; Page: 33.

patchem

patchem Report 28 Dec 2012 11:03

Abraham Greening is in someone's tree on here.
Worth contacting him?

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 28 Dec 2012 11:05

Age a bit out?

Births Dec 1886 Greening Charles Melville Camberwell 1d _1_