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sue t

sue t Report 9 Jan 2014 14:34

Hi Rebecca i know this thread is a year old and i hope you managed to sort the grave out for your Uncle.
I wondered if you were still researching this Horrocks line ? I have Horrocks from Aughton back to the 1600's including Daniels and Georges.
Regards Sue

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Jan 2013 14:38

Oh Mike it was very late.........sorry :-D

Mike *

Mike * Report 16 Jan 2013 00:27

MC that birth is for Alexandra.





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Births Mar 1946

Horrocks Alexander- Keenan- Liverpool N. 8b 564

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jan 2013 23:04

This is the only Alexander Horrocks born in 1946 and born in the apr may june quarter with mothers maiden name Johnson.

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
about Alexandra M Horrocks
Name: Alexandra M Horrocks
Mother's Maiden Surname: Johnson **********************
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1946
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 60

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jan 2013 22:58

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Harry H Horrocks
Name: Harry H Horrocks
Mother's Maiden Name: Hardman ************************
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1913
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 740

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jan 2013 22:37

James Horrocks

groom's nameJames Horrocks
bride's nameEllen Swift
marriage date13 Mar 1853
marriage placeSaint Nicholas,Liverpool,Lancashire,England
indexing project (batch) numberM00599-4
system originEngland-ODM
source film number93847, 93848, 93849, 93850, 93851, 93852

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jan 2013 22:29

spouseEllen Aughton

groom's nameGeorge Harrocks
bride's nameEllen Aughton
marriage date14 Sep 1828
marriage placeKirkby, Lancashire, England
indexing project (batch) numberM04763-3
system originEngland-ODM
source film number

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parents George Harrocks, Ellen

nameJames Harrocks
genderMale
baptism/christening date06 Feb 1831
baptism/christening placeSAINT CHAD,KIRKBY BY MELLING,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date19 Jan 1831
father's nameGeorge Harrocks**************
mother's nameEllen
indexing project (batch) numberC04763-1
system originEngland-ODM
source film number93758

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These are the births and baptisms of George Harrocks and Ellen Aughton


parentGeorge Harrocks, Ellen

nameGeorge Harrocks
genderMale
baptism/christening date26 Jul 1835
baptism/christening placeSAINT CHAD,KIRKBY BY MELLING,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date13 Jul 1835
father's nameGeorge Harrocks
mother's nameEllen
indexing project (batch) numberC04763-1
system originEngland-ODM
source film number93758

parentGeorge Harrocks, Ellen

nameElizabeth Harrocks
genderFemale
baptism/christening date16 Feb 1840
baptism/christening placeSAINT CHAD,KIRKBY BY MELLING,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date20 Jan 1840
father's nameGeorge Harrocks
mother's nameEllen
indexing project (batch) numberC04763-1
system originEngland-ODM
source film number93758

George Harrocks, Ellen

nameDaniel Harrocks**************************************************
genderMale
baptism/christening date20 Feb 1848
baptism/christening placeSAINT CHAD,KIRKBY BY MELLING,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date16 Jan 1848
father's nameGeorge Harrocks
mother's nameEllen
indexing project (batch) numberC04763-1
system originEngland-ODM
source film number93758

George Harrocks, Ellen

nameMargaret Harrocks
genderFemale
baptism/christening date12 May 1833
baptism/christening placeSAINT CHAD,KIRKBY BY MELLING,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date30 Apr 1833
father's nameGeorge Harrocks
mother's nameEllen
indexing project (batch) numberC04763-1
system originEngland-ODM
source film number93758

George Harrocks, Ellen

nameThomas Harrocks
genderMale
baptism/christening date22 Mar 1829
baptism/christening placeSAINT CHAD,KIRKBY BY MELLING,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date11 Mar 1829
father's nameGeorge Harrocks
mother's nameEllen
indexing project (batch) numberC04763-1
system originEngland-ODM
source film number93758

parentGeorge Harrocks, Ellen

nameEdmond Harrocks
genderMale
baptism/christening date08 Jun 1851
baptism/christening placeSAINT CHAD,KIRKBY BY MELLING,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
father's nameGeorge Harrocks
mother's nameEllen
indexing project (batch) numberC04763-1
system originEngland-ODM
source film number93758

parentGeorge Harrocks, Ellen

nameJames Harrocks
genderMale
baptism/christening date06 Feb 1831
baptism/christening placeSAINT CHAD,KIRKBY BY MELLING,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date19 Jan 1831
father's nameGeorge Harrocks
mother's nameEllen
indexing project (batch) numberC04763-1
system originEngland-ODM
source film number93758

parentGeorge Harrocks, Ellen

nameEllen Harrocks
genderFemale
baptism/christening date17 Dec 1837
baptism/christening placeSAINT CHAD,KIRKBY BY MELLING,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date14 Nov 1837
father's nameGeorge Harrocks
mother's nameEllen
indexing project (batch) numberC04763-1
system originEngland-ODM
source film number93758


Rebecca

Rebecca Report 15 Jan 2013 20:16

We'll get right on it, thanks so much.

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Jan 2013 20:13

If it was my problem I would start with the uncle's birth certificate followed my his parents marriage cert and then their birth cert and so on... till you can prove the unbroken line.

Could be expensive, it depends how much proof the vicar needs to use George's grave.

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 15 Jan 2013 20:08

Thanks so much for that help :) what do you think I should do next?

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Jan 2013 20:06

Rebecca, a birth record entry is not a certificate.

You need to buy certificates from the General Reg Off.

You can apply online, here's the link

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp


You also need to cross check Daniel's marriage certificate for his father's name and occupation.

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Jan 2013 20:04

A tree on Ancestry has ..... (but would stll need verifying )

Daniel Horrocks
Birth 1873 in Kirkby, Lancashire, England
Death Dec 1933 in West Derby, Lancashire, England


Parents
James Horrocks 1831 –
Ellen Swift 1830 – 1886

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 15 Jan 2013 20:03

Just says year of registration 1873 and Jan-Feb-Mar district West Derby Lancashire, no maiden name.

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Jan 2013 20:00

If as you say you have Daniel's birth cert, it would tell you his exact date of birth and his mother's maiden name.

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 15 Jan 2013 19:56

I had Daniel's siblings down as Mary (1863) , James (1867) and Ellen (1869). I never knew Daniel's mother's surname the person who helped me last time said it was unknown.

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 15 Jan 2013 19:47

Elizabeth Hardman birth was 1872 not 1808 - big blunder!!

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 15 Jan 2013 19:44

No his DOB isn't present. I've got a birth certificate which is Jan-Feb-Mar 1873 and death Oct-Nov-Dec 1933. All I know is that he died being trampled by horses as he was a carter if that helps?

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Jan 2013 19:34

Is Daniel's DOB on his death cert ?

Don't rely on censuses.
Certificates are needed in this case if you want to be sure you have the right line.

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 15 Jan 2013 19:31

Location is Liverpool. Whoops didn't even notice that big mistake with Hardman.
Yes he is buried under George 'Harrocks' in St. Chads in Kirkby.
I'm pretty sure Daniel was in Kirkby not Whiston.
I've looked through the censuses and it seems that Daniel was the son of James and Ellen.

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Jan 2013 19:20

Need to check which Daniel is yours


Births Mar 1873
Horrocks Daniel - W. Derby 8b 454


name: Daniel Horrocks
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 12 Jan 1873
baptism/christening place: Kirkby, Lancashire, England

father's name: James Horrocks
mother's name: Ellen Horrocks


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Births Mar 1873
Harrocks Daniel -Prescott 8b 636


name: Daniel Horrocks
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 02 Apr 1873
baptism/christening place: Prescot, Lancashire, England
:
father's name: John Horrocks
:
mother's name: Jane Horrocks