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Danielle
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22 Feb 2013 21:09 |
Hi there, i am new to all this.
i have just started my tree again and would love a little help. i have a great grandparent called Florence Starmer, she was born in 1881 in Kettering. Her parents was called Fredueck Starmer and Mary Ann Starmer. I can see them in the 1881 census but after that all of Freduecks and Mary's kids are living with Freduecks parents. if anyone could give me any help with these 3 people i would be very grateful. Florence did get married to a Bertram Holmes
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AnnCardiff
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22 Feb 2013 21:15 |
Hi Danielle - welcome - I'll take a look
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patchem
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22 Feb 2013 21:16 |
Welcome to the boards. Have you looked for deaths for Frederick or Mary Ann? Have you got their marriage certificate?
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AnnCardiff
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22 Feb 2013 21:17 |
name: Florence Starmer gender: Female baptism/christening date: 09 Apr 1882 baptism/christening place: Kettering, Northampton, England father's name: Frederick Starmer mother's name: Mary Ann Starmer indexing project (batch) number: I00714-4 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 6127916 reference number: yr 1870-1886 p 137
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patchem
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22 Feb 2013 21:18 |
? Deaths Dec 1889 Starmer Frederick 39 Kettering 3b 109 found on free bmd.... Also Marriages Jun 1872 Bettles Mary Ann Kettering 3b 329 STARMER Frederick Kettering 3b 329
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AnnCardiff
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22 Feb 2013 21:18 |
Florence Starmer in household of Florence Starmer, "England and Wales Census, 1891"
name: Florence Starmer event: Census event date: 1891 gender: Female age: 10 relationship to head of household: Granddaughter birthplace: Kettering, Northamptonshire record type: Household registration district: Kettering sub-district: Kettering ecclesiastical parish: S S Peter & Paul civil parish: Kettering county: Northamptonshire
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patchem
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22 Feb 2013 21:32 |
? 1871 England Census Mary Ann Bottles [Mary Ann Bettles] Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Bottles Mother's name: Mary Ann Bottles Gender: Female Where born: Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Wellingborough Town: Wellingborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Registration district: Wellingborough Sub-registration district: Wellingborough ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 45 Piece: 1501 Folio: 126 Page Number: 10 John Bottles 42 Mary Ann Bottles 40 Mary Ann Bottles 17 James Bottles 13 Elizabeth Bottles 18 Sarah Ellen Ivery 10 Ruth Bottles 8 John Bottles 6 Miriam Bottles 6 Thomas Bottles 1 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1871 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
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patchem
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22 Feb 2013 21:37 |
? 1861 England Census John Bettle Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Bettle Gender: Male Where born: Wellingborough Civil parish: Wellingborough Town: Wellingborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Occupation: shoe maker Registration district: Wellingborough Sub-registration district: Wellingborough Household schedule number: 144 Piece: 953 Folio: 90 Page Number: 22 John Bettle 32 Mary A Bettle 30 Mary A Bettle 7 Elizth Bettle 5 James Bettle 3 Sarah E Bettle 10 Months Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1861 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 22:56 |
Use the following site......................
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 23:00 |
When did Florence marry Holmes?
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 23:05 |
1881 England Census Name: Frederick Starmer Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Starmer Gender: Male Where born: Kettering, Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Kettering County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street Address: 8 Rockingham Road Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Curriers Labourer Registration district: Kettering Sub-registration district: Kettering ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1576 Folio: 33 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Starmer 32 Mary Ann Starmer 27 Bertha Starmer 4 Albert E. Starmer 2 James Bettles 16
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 23:06 |
Births Mar 1882 (>99%) Starmer Florence Kettering 3b 176
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 23:07 |
1891 England Census about Bertha Stanner Name: Bertha Stanner Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Northants, Kettering Civil parish: Kettering Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England
Registration district: Kettering Sub-registration district: Kettering ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1216 Folio: 28 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age John Stanner 64 Caroline Stanner 63 Bertha Stanner 14 Florence Stanner 10 Nellie Stanner 5
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 23:10 |
1911 England Census Name: Albert Edward Starmer Age in 1911: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Kettering, Northamptonshire Civil parish: Kettering County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street Address: 33 Tresham St Kettering Northamptonshire Marital Status: Married Occupation: Boot Laster Registration district: Kettering Registration District Number: 167 Sub-registration district: Kettering ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Household schedule number: 32 Piece: 8584 Household Members: Name Age Albert Edward Starmer 32 Ethel Starmer 30 Albert Edward Starmer 5 Coral Foster 14 Edwin Toms 5
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Beanington
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22 Feb 2013 23:13 |
Looks like Florence married twice.
First in 1902 to William Kimberley in Kettering.
Then in 1942 Florence Kimberley married Bert Holmes in Kettering.
From FreeBMD
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 23:16 |
1911 census
Person: KIMBERLEY, Florence Address: 10 Lancaster Road Kettering Northants BAMBRIDGE, John George Head Married M 31 1880 Shoe Finisher Northampton Kettering VIEW BAMBRIDGE, Sophia Wife Married9 years F 29 1882 Shoe Machinist Northampton Geddington VIEW COX, Catherine Ellen Daughter F 12 1899 School Northampton Kettering VIEW BAMBRIDGE, Doris Winifred Daughter F 7 1904 School Northampton Kettering VIEW BAMBRIDGE, Arthur James Son M 4 1907 Northampton Kettering VIEW BAMBRIDGE, Kate Elizabeth Daughter F 2 1909 Northampton Kettering VIEW KIMBERLEY, Florence Boarder Married9 years F 29 1882 Shoe Machinist Northampton Kettering VIEW KIMBERLEY, William Nicholas Boarder M 8 1903 School Northampton Kettering
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 23:17 |
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 Name: William Nicholas Kimberley Birth Date: 13 Jan 1903 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1975 Age at Death: 72 Registration district: Kettering Inferred County: Northamptonshire Volume: 7 Page: 2024
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Danielle
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22 Feb 2013 23:34 |
Thank you so much for all the replies, I didn't know any of the dates of Florence's marriages, I'm so pleased you found her marriage to "Kimberley" as I had heard of this, but the person who I heard it off wasn't sure if it was a rumour. As I said I am all new to this, so I really appreciate the help. Thanks again :-)
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ErikaH
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23 Feb 2013 00:21 |
Put freebmd in your favourites..........you will find it invaluable
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MarieCeleste
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23 Feb 2013 09:36 |
Hello Danielle, when Florence married Bert Holmes she would have been 60 so they wouldn't have had any children after that time, although they may have been together as a couple before then.
Whether you're descended through the Holmes or the Bainbridge line you can trace back by getting a copy of the appropriate marriage certificate for her. You can order from GRO http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp costs £9.25
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