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Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 23 Jul 2013 22:43

Clare...This is an " interesting" version of the events..

HEROINE
Construction WOOD
Type SCHOONER
Date 1844
Description Rig: SCHOONER
Yard Number: 144
Owner: Cormack, Wick
Hull Type: Sailing

Lloyd's Register:
1845: Owner and Master Cormack. Port belonging to Wick. Destined voyage Aberdeen-Coastal.
1850: Owner Ross and Co., Master Congalton. Port belonging to Inverness. Destined voyage Leith-Coastal.
1852, 1853, 1855: Owner Cormack and (blank), Master D. Cormack. Destined voyage London-Africa (1855- destined voyage blank).
1856: No reference.

Daily News, 08/11/1853:
Schooner HEROINE sailed from London about 18 months ago on a trading voyage to Africa, her owner Captain Cormack being master. He traded with the King of Tabout on credit, to be paid for in palm oil, etc., and having failed to receive this, took the King and some of his people and kept them on the vessel. The King's son and subjects came out in canoes and boarded the vessel. Capt. Cormack was stabbed from behing and pitched overboard and remainder of crew except one boy were murdered. 2 days later the brig TWEED chanced to anchor there and paid the natives to give up the HEROINE. The ship was brought home with difficulty by Capt. Stafford, being dismasted in a heavy gale near the Western Isles.

Aberdeen Journal, 23/11/1853:
Treacherously murdered by the natives of Tabou, West Africa, on 11 July aboard the schooner HEROINE, Captain Daniel Cormack of Wick, age 39.

Morning Chronicle, 09/01/1854:
Grand Tabou, a large village 30 miles East of Cape Palmas [Liberia] has been destroyed with shot and shell from H.M.S. PENELOPE in consequence of the brutal murder of Captain and crew of British merchant schooner HEROINE.

Liverpool Mercury, 10/10/1854:
The afficted widow and boy of the late lamented Capt. Cormack of British Schooner HEROINE, massacred on the cost of Africa, most respectfully solicit at the hands of merchants, captains and the charitable public at large a little means by which she may be able to support herself and child in some respectable business.
Shipbuilder A. HALL & Co., Aberdeen
Dimensions gross tonnage 109 tons

Clare

Clare Report 22 Jul 2013 16:20

The more you delve the more interesting it all becomes! Thanks a lot everyone. I do think Daniel Cormack senior is most definitely my ancestor - it all ties up. I await the marriage certificate of Daniel and Eliza in earnest!

What I am intrigued about now is Daniel Junior, (son of Daniel and Eliza) who was born in India. What was Eliza doing in India - perhaps as vessel owner, Daniel Snr took her for the trip but it sounds like they would have been dicing with death the whole journey as he indeed was murdered on such a trip to Africa!

Anyway I don't want to push you for too much info; I'm sure you are busy for many others. You just seem to be able to find things I can't :-)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Jul 2013 14:48

Clare .....
Just to keep for future ref.

Found in some "old data" I had for the Co Limerick.....no other details.

Deaths.....Kilmallock

7.March 1868 Anne Margaret daughter of Dr. O'Connell

7.July 1870 William David son of Dr O'Connell

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Jul 2013 11:42

Following on for ref ....University of Glasgow...re Morgan D O'Connell

Graduate Record for Morgan David O'Connell
Forename: Morgan David
Surname: O'Connell
Degree Information: MD (1838)
Countries of Association: Ireland; Spain


Further information from the University records:

Addison 1727-1897 reads: Knight of St Ferdinand; sometime Surgeon on Staff, Brit. Leg. of Spain; Kilmallock, County Limerick; died January, 1887.


From Limerick Post 1833...

1833 3 19 NPS O'CONNELL Morgan D Mr
Mr. Morgan D O’CONNELL, of Kilmallock, Medical Student, safely delivered a Woman in the Lying in Hospital “Dublin” on Tuesday night of two sons and a daughter, who are doing well.


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jul 2013 09:56

Chris - can't c&p from the BNA either, I typed it!

I do hope the marriage cert confirms what we've found. I notice that on the Aberdeen Ships link that it mentions Capt Cormack was from Wick. This must be his Master's Certificate:

UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927

Name: Daniel Cormack
Estimated Age: 38
Birth Date: 1813
Birth Place: Wick, Caithness
Issue Date: 1 Dec 1851
Issue Port: London
Certificate Number: 70.742

Served 22 years as boy, mate and master in Coasting and Foreign Trades.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 22 Jul 2013 09:46

(thankyou MC, I had it through Lancs. Library, but you can't c&p)

Will await info. from Daniel/Miriam Marriage cert. regarding Father.

Chris :)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jul 2013 09:39

I can't seem to find Eliza and Daniel in 1861, I suppose it's possible they may have gone to her family in Kilmallock following the tragedy.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jul 2013 09:33

What a brilliant find Chris!

Here's the transcript of the full article from the Morning Post (Friday 11 November 1853)

THE TRAGEDY ON BOARD THE HEROINE
We regret to have to announce that Captain Daniel Cormack of the Heroine, whose life was sacrificed to the cruelty of the savages on the coast of Africa, is nearly related to Doctor Morgan O'Connell, of Kilmallock, having been married to a sister of that gentleman.

His afflicted widow and only son live at Lee Kent, near London, where they daily and hourly expect the return of the unfortunate captain.

He was the owner of the Heroine and was commencing to make a rapid fortune, when he met with his death under the dreadful circumstances already detailed.

In his untimely death his friends have to deplore the loss of a brave and experienced sailor, a kindly and courteous gentleman, and a sincere friend, and his bereaved wife the loss of an attached and affectionate husband.

(I had hoped the article might have named his wife so we could tie it up, however seeing as the 1848 article mentioned a marriage to Eliza O'Connell of Kilmallock there's not much doubt).

Clare

Clare Report 22 Jul 2013 08:38

That's fascinating Chris - thank you!

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 21 Jul 2013 20:57

(MC, if your'e about, can you see below newspaper article?, sorry to ask, lol)

IRELAND. Capt. Daniel Cormack, of the Heroine, whose life was sacrificed to the cruelty of the savages on the coast of Africa, is nearly related to Dr. Morgan O'Connell, of Kilmallock, having been married to a sister of that gentleman. His afflicted widow and Morning Post London, England11/11/1853

Chris :)

edits (google bringing up items)

http://www.aberdeenships.com/single.asp?offset=1220&index=100065

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 21 Jul 2013 20:36

(just come across the below)

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
The Newcastle Courant etc (Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England), Friday, September 15, 1848

At Tynemouth on the 9th, Mr Daniel Cormack, master mariner, of Tynemouth, to Miss Eliza O'Connell, of Kilmallock, in the county of Limerick.

Chris :)

Dea

Dea Report 21 Jul 2013 20:14

Come back to us when you receive them and we can see if we can help further !!

Dea Xxx

Clare

Clare Report 21 Jul 2013 19:44

Thanks for your help. I've ordered a copy of Daniel Cormack and Eliza O'Connell's marriage cert from 1848 and also their son Daniel's marriage to Miriam Fisher in 1882.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jul 2013 10:40

Reggie, I couldn't spot that couple in 1851 so was wondering if it indeed was them.

However, I was asking if anyone else could see them in case I'd missed them. If the couple from that 1848 marriage were to be found in 1851 then we could probably eliminate them as Daniel's potential parents.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jul 2013 10:33

Clare

To get factual info, buy one of the certs whose GRO details you have been given.

£9.25 on line from the GRO

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jul 2013 10:30

They - if they were Daniel's parents - would have been in India in 1851.............

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jul 2013 09:59

Might be a complete coincidence, but thought I'd post - just in case:

"England Marriages, 1538–1973 "

Name: Daniel Cormack
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Eliza O Connell
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 1848
Event Place: Tynemouth, Christ Church, Northumberland, England
Father's Name: Daniel Cormack
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: David O Connell
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13565-9
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1068931
Reference ID: 2:3K79V1W

Citing this Record:
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N6P6-7RK : accessed 21 Jul 2013), Daniel Cormack and Eliza O Connell, 1848.

Can anyone see this couple on the 1851?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jul 2013 09:44

This seems to be the 1871 for Eliza and Daniel:

CORMACK, Elizabeth Head F 38 1833 Ireland - annuitant (widow)
CORMACK, Daniel Son M 20 1851 India - carpenter
HILL, George Lodger M 58 1813 Gloucestershire
TILLY, John Lodger M 69 1802 Ireland
WILKINS, John Lodger M 45 1826 Glamorgan
OSMOND, Mary A Lodger F 27 1844 Somerset
CLARK, James Lodger M 31 1840 Ireland

Piece: 5360 Folio: 129 Page: 11
Registration District: Cardiff Civil
Parish: Cardiff (St Mary)
Municipal Borough: Cardiff

Address: Mary Ann St, Cardiff (St Mary), Cardiff County: Glamorganshire

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Jul 2013 09:32

Clare her death cert won't give her Fathers name Hopefully it will say widow of and her hubby's name,

Am wondering Ealiza maiden name was O,Connell as that was given to Daniel as part of his name


Daniels marriage cert though should give his dads name


BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 21 Jul 2013 09:30

Have you found her after 1881?
Is this not her death??

Deaths Dec 1884 (>99%)
Cormack Elizabeth 63 Bath 5c 427

This is the only Cormack death in Somerset which could possibly fit.