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It's an n not an r I think....Diolch yn fawr and means thank you very much ....and this and my (card borrowed) felicitations are the extent of my Welsh! I am too old to have been taught it compulsorily in school :-(

Jude

Hey BMD, I hope the google translator got this wrong, but it translates as "thank the large" !!

feliz año nuevo

& kung hei fat choi!

Diolch yr fawr Jude, been many a year since I've written that! (Hoping I've remembered the correct spelling). :-)

Dymuniadau gorau ar gyfer y Nadolig A’r Flwyddyn Newydd



Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year

:-)

Happy New Year to you too Jude. :-D

Address given by Isabel in 1920 has one of the witnesses living there,

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Kathleen Agnes Lawson 1918 Kensington and Chelsea Kensington 21 Cathcart House


This is Kathleen's marriage,

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1913 (>99%)
CHURCH Geoffrey S Somerville Marylebone 1a 1293
Lawson Charles A Pike Marylebone 1a 1293 <<<<<<
Pike Kathleen A Lawson Marylebone 1a 1293 <<<<<<<
Somerville Doris L C Church Marylebone 1a 1293

BMD (ha ha!!!) there are some that won't be found :-)

I even spent a few credits on Scotlandspeople.....

Happy New Year!


Jude

This is Isabel's marriage,

Name: Isabella Burt
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Age: 25
Spouse Name: Henry James Mayes
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Mar 1920
Parish: West Brompton
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: George Burt >>>> Carman
Spouse Father: William Mayes
Register Type: Parish Register

Address given for her is 21 Cathcart Road.
Witnesses are, Norah Wright, Arthur Leader, Kathleen A Lawson and George Burt.

I've turned the census upside down, inside out and shook it all about an eliminated possibles and I haven't found Harry or Nelly in 1911. I've looked at the possibilities of them leaving the country and not turned anything up there either.

I could understand not finding Nelly as she could have married anywhere in the country and be under her married name, however I would have thought we would have found Harry, unless he didn't want to be found? I've even spent time and looking at possibly marriages for him and possible deaths for corresponding wives, also possible children: Oatrick as a first name, P as a middle initial and even Peter as a first name. I admit defeat on this one. :-(

Explains who Mabel was then :-)

So where was our Nellie (I was rather hoping to find Harry with her ;-) )

Jude

OK, rule out that marriage - this is them in 1891:

Nellie Burt
Age: 6 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Burt
Mother's Name: Alice Burt
Gender: Female
Where born: Bermondsey, London, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration District: St James Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 377
Folio: 63
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
George Burt 28
Alice Burt 28
Walter Burt 6
Mable Burt 4
Henry Burt 3
Nellie Burt 6 Months

It could be them Jude, but Cyril was born Syria (as all his siblings) on the earlier census.

Yes Flip I looked at the Adams marriage.......

is this them in 1911?

Name: Cyril Adams
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Guildford, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Newmarket
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street Address: Edfield House, Wellington St, Newmarket SW
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Picture Hall Manager
Registration District: Newmarket
Registration District Number: 183
Sub-registration District: Newmarket
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household Schedule Number: 115
Piece: 9180
Household Members:
Name Age
Cyril Adams 26
Nellie Adams 20
Mabel Burt 24

But who is Mabel???

Jude

EDIT - WRONG MARRIAGE, LEFT FOR ELIMINATION PURPOSES ONLY

There's this marriage, only problem is the father's occupation - states coal porter?

Nellie Burt
Age: 19
Birth Year: abt 1890
Marriage Date: 31 Jul 1909
Archive Provided Parish: Stoke Next Guildford, St John the Evangelist
Parish as it Appears: Stoke Next Guildford
Spouse: Cyril Alfred Adams

Spouse Age: 25
Father: George Burt
Spouse Father: Charles Henry Adams (engineer)
Reference Number: STK/2/9

witnesses George Burt, Charles Henry Adams

ADDED: George was a carman in 1891 & 1911, but was working in a laundry in 1901 - Cyril was a laundryman on this marriage, and on the 1901 census.

Not found Nelly in 1911 nor a corresponding marriage to match her to.

Jude I think the 1911 Henry that you found is this one,

Name: Henry F L Burt
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Edward H Burt
Mother: Nora E Burt
Birth Place: Hornsey, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Hornsey
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward H Burt 32
Nora E Burt 30
Henry F L Burt 3


In 1911 his parents are still in the area with a young daughter, it states that 2 children were born, both still living.

This is Vincent John's father..

Name: George Fred Hennessey
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Hennessey
Mother's Name: Emily Hennessey
Gender: Male
Where born: Holborn, London, England
Civil Parish: St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Stamford
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Registration District: Stamford
Sub-registration District: Stamford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2552
Folio: 69
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Hennessey 42
Emily Hennessey 38
Ellen Martha Hennessey 17
Richard John Hennessey 15
George Fred Hennessey 14
Cecilia Mary Hennessey 12
Elisabeth Florence Hennessey 10
Agnes Maud Hennessey 9
John Albert Hennessey 6
Rose Gertrude Hennessey 1

So Cecilia Mary was his aunt and therefore Eileen Cecilia was his cousin

Jude

Is it a coincidence that in 1908 George Burt married Cecilia Mary Hennessey and then in 1935 Eileen Cecilia Burt married John Victor Hennessey? (Or have I missed something?)

I keep looking at this 1911...Name: Henry Burt
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hornsey Rd N
Civil Parish: Hornsey
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Park Mansions, Park Road, Hornsey N
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Hairdressers Assistant
Registration District: Edmonton
Registration District Number: 132
Sub-registration District: Hornsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Household Schedule Number: 11
Piece: 7229
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Bokslag 36
Henry Burt 14

place of birth is shown as the address of the hairdressers! Which suggests Albert didn't know...

Has anyone found Nellie in 1911 btw?

Jude

These are the baptisms of the first 5 children from George and Mary, the address is the same for all 480 Hornsey Road,

View Record Name Birth Year Event Type Event Date Church Borough Parent or spouse names View Images
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George Burt Baptism 2 Nov 1890 Archway Road Wesleyan Methodist Haringey George, Mary Ann
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Nellie Burt Baptism 2 Nov 1890 Archway Road Wesleyan Methodist Haringey George, Mary Ann
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Amelia Burt Baptism 2 Apr 1893 Archway Road Wesleyan Methodist Haringey George, Mary
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John Burt Baptism 11 Feb 1894 Archway Road Wesleyan Methodist Haringey George, Mary
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Isabel Burt Baptism 28 Apr 1895 Archway Road Wesleyan Methodist Haringey George, Mary


Amelia and John died :(